Shall we investigate a bit more on the ACC ? Make it a first class citizen
container ? Make sure CDI is implemented (as Pete was suggesting, it might
not be in JBoss ACC implementation) ?
Antonio
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>wrote:
> Which is exactly the point of the ACC - to make things like this easy
> and standard.
>
> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/11/2012 12:15 PM:
>
> Interesting ;o) Well, looks like the TCK needs some extra test cases then
> ;o)
>
> ACC is not very well known and not used very often. It's a shame because
> it could have been an easy way to bootstrap CDI in a Java SE environment
> for example (and in a standard way)
>
> Antonio
> Le 11 nov. 2012 21:07, "Bill Shannon" <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> a écrit :
>
>> Sigh...
>>
>> It appears that we neither implemented nor tested support for CDI in the
>> app client container. Clearly something we'll need to fix for EE 7, if not
>> sooner.
>>
>> Bill Shannon wrote on 11/09/2012 04:47 PM:
>>
>> Yes, based on the Java EE 6 platform spec, I intended and expected CDI to
>> work in the app client container.
>>
>> I'm trying to find out what we actually implemented and tested... :-)
>>
>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 14:10:
>>
>> Ok, good to know. But that means that all ACC implementations should
>> support it then ? As Pete said, looks like the JBoss one doesn't....
>>
>> I found the mail I sent to the GlassFish forum a couple of years ago
>> about this topic (
>> http://www.java.net/forum/topic/glassfish/glassfish/using-cdi-acc-se-environment).
>> I'll be doing more test to make sure and fill a bug if needed.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>wrote:
>>
>>> CDI is supposed to be supported in the app client container. If it's
>>> not working, please file bugs.
>>>
>>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 06:09:
>>>
>>> Hum.... for me it's just another container (EJB, Servlet & Client) so I
>>> would expect the same services from CDI. ACC is not plain Java SE, it's a
>>> container that gives you a small set of services, and that includes CDI (as
>>> per Java EE specification).
>>>
>>> Bill/Linda, if CDI is not supported in ACC why not getting rid of it
>>> in Figure EE.2-1 ? It's confusing.
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> This also ties in to more general Java SE support for CDI IMO. I would
>>>> probably prefer to get a general solution sorted, rather than a special
>>>> case for ACC.
>>>>
>>>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 14:56, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I like to use Producers and Alternatives so I can easily switch
>>>> context. In the case of having CDI in ACC that would allow me to invoke
>>>> different Web Serivces just by changing beans.xml
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > It's not in the cdi tck so I doubt it is in jboss as.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nigel's point about scopes is very relevant.
>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012 14:03, "Antonio Goncalves" <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not an ACC expert, but I do use it once in a while. But to be
>>>> honest, I don't know why it doesn't work. If you look at the EE spec (eg.
>>>> EE 7 - Figure EE.2-1) you see that CDI & DI is in the ACC. But on the other
>>>> hand, the CDI 1.0 spec (12.1. Bean archives) says "The container is not
>>>> required to support application client jar bean archives." I tried several
>>>> time with the appclient from GlassFish, and CDI just doesn't work (wonder
>>>> if JBoss ACC allows CDI or not). The "is not required" part is frustrating.
>>>> >
>>>> > Antonio
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not an expert in the ACC, so would need a ACC expert who knows
>>>> CDI to help us define the behavior. Interested Antonio?
>>>> >
>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012, at 12:41, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any discussion on this
>>>> topic. In Java EE 6 CDI doesn't work in ACC. Wouldn't it be useful to add
>>>> it in EE 7 ?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > A use case I'm working on at the moment is that I have a Java SE
>>>> class (running in ACC) that injects a web service reference with
>>>> @WebServiceRef. With CDI enabled I could produce this reference and just
>>>> @Inject it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > What do you think ?
>>>> > >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>>
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