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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: CDI in Application Client Container

From: Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:08:32 -0800

Which is exactly the point of the ACC - to make things like this easy and standard.

Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/11/2012 12:15 PM:
>
> Interesting ;o) Well, looks like the TCK needs some extra test cases then ;o)
>
> ACC is not very well known and not used very often. It's a shame because it
> could have been an easy way to bootstrap CDI in a Java SE environment for
> example (and in a standard way)
>
> Antonio
>
> Le 11 nov. 2012 21:07, "Bill Shannon" <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> a écrit :
>
> Sigh...
>
> It appears that we neither implemented nor tested support for CDI in the
> app client container. Clearly something we'll need to fix for EE 7, if
> not sooner.
>
> Bill Shannon wrote on 11/09/2012 04:47 PM:
>> Yes, based on the Java EE 6 platform spec, I intended and expected CDI to
>> work in the app client container.
>>
>> I'm trying to find out what we actually implemented and tested... :-)
>>
>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 14:10:
>>> Ok, good to know. But that means that all ACC implementations should
>>> support it then ? As Pete said, looks like the JBoss one doesn't....
>>>
>>> I found the mail I sent to the GlassFish forum a couple of years ago
>>> about this topic
>>> (http://www.java.net/forum/topic/glassfish/glassfish/using-cdi-acc-se-environment).
>>> I'll be doing more test to make sure and fill a bug if needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
>>> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> CDI is supposed to be supported in the app client container. If
>>> it's not working, please file bugs.
>>>
>>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 06:09:
>>>> Hum.... for me it's just another container (EJB, Servlet & Client)
>>>> so I would expect the same services from CDI. ACC is not plain Java
>>>> SE, it's a container that gives you a small set of services, and
>>>> that includes CDI (as per Java EE specification).
>>>>
>>>> Bill/Linda, if CDI is not supported in ACC why not getting rid of
>>>> it in Figure EE.2-1 ? It's confusing.
>>>>
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This also ties in to more general Java SE support for CDI IMO.
>>>> I would probably prefer to get a general solution sorted,
>>>> rather than a special case for ACC.
>>>>
>>>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 14:56, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I like to use Producers and Alternatives so I can easily
>>>> switch context. In the case of having CDI in ACC that would
>>>> allow me to invoke different Web Serivces just by changing
>>>> beans.xml
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Pete Muir
>>>> <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>> > It's not in the cdi tck so I doubt it is in jboss as.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nigel's point about scopes is very relevant.
>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012 14:03, "Antonio Goncalves"
>>>> <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not an ACC expert, but I do use it once in a while. But
>>>> to be honest, I don't know why it doesn't work. If you look at
>>>> the EE spec (eg. EE 7 - Figure EE.2-1) you see that CDI & DI is
>>>> in the ACC. But on the other hand, the CDI 1.0 spec (12.1. Bean
>>>> archives) says "The container is not required to support
>>>> application client jar bean archives." I tried several time
>>>> with the appclient from GlassFish, and CDI just doesn't work
>>>> (wonder if JBoss ACC allows CDI or not). The "is not required"
>>>> part is frustrating.
>>>> >
>>>> > Antonio
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Pete Muir
>>>> <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not an expert in the ACC, so would need a ACC expert who
>>>> knows CDI to help us define the behavior. Interested Antonio?
>>>> >
>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012, at 12:41, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any discussion
>>>> on this topic. In Java EE 6 CDI doesn't work in ACC. Wouldn't
>>>> it be useful to add it in EE 7 ?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > A use case I'm working on at the moment is that I have a
>>>> Java SE class (running in ACC) that injects a web service
>>>> reference with @WebServiceRef. With CDI enabled I could produce
>>>> this reference and just @Inject it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > What do you think ?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Antonio Goncalves
>>>> > > Software architect and Java Champion
>>>> > >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Antonio Goncalves
>>>> > Software architect and Java Champion
>>>> >
>>>> > Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Antonio Goncalves
>>>> > Software architect and Java Champion
>>>> >
>>>> > Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Goncalves
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>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Antonio Goncalves
>>> Software architect and Java Champion
>>>
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