We may be fighting a losing battle with ACC, but...
In what ways do you think ACC is *not* a first class citizen container?
Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/12/12 00:58:
> Shall we investigate a bit more on the ACC ? Make it a first class citizen
> container ? Make sure CDI is implemented (as Pete was suggesting, it might not
> be in JBoss ACC implementation) ?
>
> Antonio
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> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> wrote:
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> Which is exactly the point of the ACC - to make things like this easy and
> standard.
>
> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/11/2012 12:15 PM:
>>
>> Interesting ;o) Well, looks like the TCK needs some extra test cases
>> then ;o)
>>
>> ACC is not very well known and not used very often. It's a shame because
>> it could have been an easy way to bootstrap CDI in a Java SE environment
>> for example (and in a standard way)
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> Le 11 nov. 2012 21:07, "Bill Shannon" <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com
>> <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> Sigh...
>>
>> It appears that we neither implemented nor tested support for CDI in
>> the app client container. Clearly something we'll need to fix for EE
>> 7, if not sooner.
>>
>> Bill Shannon wrote on 11/09/2012 04:47 PM:
>>> Yes, based on the Java EE 6 platform spec, I intended and expected
>>> CDI to work in the app client container.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to find out what we actually implemented and tested... :-)
>>>
>>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 14:10:
>>>> Ok, good to know. But that means that all ACC implementations
>>>> should support it then ? As Pete said, looks like the JBoss one
>>>> doesn't....
>>>>
>>>> I found the mail I sent to the GlassFish forum a couple of years
>>>> ago about this topic
>>>> (http://www.java.net/forum/topic/glassfish/glassfish/using-cdi-acc-se-environment).
>>>> I'll be doing more test to make sure and fill a bug if needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Bill Shannon
>>>> <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com <mailto:bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CDI is supposed to be supported in the app client container.
>>>> If it's not working, please file bugs.
>>>>
>>>> Antonio Goncalves wrote on 11/09/12 06:09:
>>>>> Hum.... for me it's just another container (EJB, Servlet &
>>>>> Client) so I would expect the same services from CDI. ACC is
>>>>> not plain Java SE, it's a container that gives you a small set
>>>>> of services, and that includes CDI (as per Java EE
>>>>> specification).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill/Linda, if CDI is not supported in ACC why not getting rid
>>>>> of it in Figure EE.2-1 ? It's confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Pete Muir
>>>>> <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This also ties in to more general Java SE support for CDI
>>>>> IMO. I would probably prefer to get a general solution
>>>>> sorted, rather than a special case for ACC.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 14:56, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I like to use Producers and Alternatives so I can easily
>>>>> switch context. In the case of having CDI in ACC that
>>>>> would allow me to invoke different Web Serivces just by
>>>>> changing beans.xml
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Pete Muir
>>>>> <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > It's not in the cdi tck so I doubt it is in jboss as.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Nigel's point about scopes is very relevant.
>>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012 14:03, "Antonio Goncalves"
>>>>> <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> > I'm not an ACC expert, but I do use it once in a while.
>>>>> But to be honest, I don't know why it doesn't work. If you
>>>>> look at the EE spec (eg. EE 7 - Figure EE.2-1) you see
>>>>> that CDI & DI is in the ACC. But on the other hand, the
>>>>> CDI 1.0 spec (12.1. Bean archives) says "The container is
>>>>> not required to support application client jar bean
>>>>> archives." I tried several time with the appclient from
>>>>> GlassFish, and CDI just doesn't work (wonder if JBoss ACC
>>>>> allows CDI or not). The "is not required" part is frustrating.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Antonio
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Pete Muir
>>>>> <pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk <mailto:pmuir_at_bleepbleep.org.uk>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I'm not an expert in the ACC, so would need a ACC expert
>>>>> who knows CDI to help us define the behavior. Interested
>>>>> Antonio?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 9 Nov 2012, at 12:41, Antonio Goncalves wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any
>>>>> discussion on this topic. In Java EE 6 CDI doesn't work in
>>>>> ACC. Wouldn't it be useful to add it in EE 7 ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > A use case I'm working on at the moment is that I have
>>>>> a Java SE class (running in ACC) that injects a web
>>>>> service reference with @WebServiceRef. With CDI enabled I
>>>>> could produce this reference and just @Inject it.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > What do you think ?
>>>>> > >
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