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[gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version

From: Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:26:08 +0000

IMHO it will never happen that Oracle allows third parties to user any of their product names, which GlassFish is one of.

Hence the only solution you have is to either make your customers understand that GlassFish is not supported anymore, or work for other customers.

-Markus

Von: Steven Siebert [mailto:smsiebe_at_gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 17:18
An: users_at_glassfish.java.net
Betreff: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version

Sadly, it's not as easy for me to switch to Payara because my customer (US Army, but by and large same goes for any federal org under NIST/FISMA/RMF) uses the "name" (and version...and applies their own rigid rules on what a version format means even though this is vendor/program specific...but another story for another day) as a unique reference "identifier" in approval/accreditation/IA documents. Sadly, changing from GF to Payara, despite its technical AND security benefits, is more difficult than it should be. If/when we get to that point, we wouldn't just be moving from GF to Payara, we would be looking at it in a much bigger picture, including considering moving away from the GF technology altogether (something I don't necessarily want to do). This is why I stepped out of the shadows and commented - however silly, it would be beneficial if the "Glassfish" trademark/name be moved.

Moving the designation as EE RI along with that would be amazing for the Java EE community, but just the designation would save time and money downstream.
S


On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de<mailto:karg_at_quipsy.de>> wrote:
We also are migrating our customers to Payara and are very happy with that company, but we would love to have a cleaned situation, i. e. Oracle clearly telling that GlassFish is dead.

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Von: Andreas Ernst [mailto:ae_at_ae-online.de<mailto:ae_at_ae-online.de>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 16:55
An: users_at_glassfish.java.net<mailto:users_at_glassfish.java.net>
Betreff: [gf-users] Re: Glassfish Server Open Source Version
Hi Markus,

Am 31.03.16 um 16:40 schrieb Markus Karg:
> Maybe „the community” should simply fork GlassFish on GitHub, register
> hundreds of well-known contributors there as the new managing
> organization, and then ask Oracle to simply hand out the trademark
> name. ;-)
>
> I bet, they won’t be cooperative even then! L

i think Orcale will GlassFish let die. I asume they are not more interested.

I moved to Payara: https://github.com/payara/Payara

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