Thanks Richard for the FishCAT planning, also thanks Kristian and
Vladimir for giving valuable input. If we can
find a way to recruit more cats like three of you, that is the winning
way :-)
I found three common things make a good cat. (1) He is using GF in his
work, good quality matters to him. (2) He has
passion for community work. (3) He enjoys the fun of meeting/helping
other cats. Any thing else you can think off?
The way Richard proposed belongs to (3). The way Vladimir proposed I
think belongs to (1), it is about earn points
and use points to improve quality in the area most interest to his work,
like he can use the points to vote for what bugs
to get fixed first some thing like that. It is a really good thinking,
but it can be hard to do since it has a bigger scope.
It is good to bring up for discussion to get more input I feel. Thanks
Vladimir!
Like to see more input from every one:
- what motivate people to join FishCAT
- how and where to recruit more cats :-)
Thanks,
Judy
Vladimir Perlov wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Let me add a couple cents to the discussion.
> In my opinion FishCat points don't provide any serious level of
> motivation.
> I would say this kind of motivation could works only in kindergarten :)
> To create the real leverage we need to establish some kind of virtual
> currency instead of useless points.
> Probably you know about "dukes" that people could earn on Sun's forums
> or "votes" that could be used for voting project's features.
> "Dukes", "votes" and "points" never really work in practice that for sure.
> To make it works you should radically change the current approach.
> The fist principle of any currency is providing buying power.
> Current buying power for points is only cat's title but that almost
> nothing. Without some kind of privileges that holder of the title
> should be able to use, title will provide very little incentive.
> In case you understand my point of view we could continue the related
> discussion on more detail level.
>
> In the past I had a brief discussion with Judy regarding this topic
> and she was supportive on this. But that time Oracle was taking over
> Sun Microsystem and it wasn't very appropriate time to go further with it.
> Now I see again some understanding that people need to be motivated to
> do some testing so I'm bringing it up.
>
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:14:26 +0200
> From: rjdkolb_at_dev.java.net
> To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> CC: mriem_at_manorrock.org
> Subject: Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward
>
> Hi Kristian
>
> On 23 June 2010 11:54, Kristian Rink <rink_at_planconnect.de
> <mailto:rink_at_planconnect.de>> wrote:
>
> first off, thanks a bunch for your work, nice seeing FC is gaining
> speed again. :)
>
>
> :-) My pleasure
>
>
> Am Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:33:39 +0200
> schrieb Richard Kolb <rjdkolb_at_dev.java.net
> <mailto:rjdkolb_at_dev.java.net>>:
> > Here are some ideas. Comments and questions would be greatly
> > welcomed! :) It's is still in the early stages of being defined, so
> > please feel free to suggest anything; after all, it is your process.
>
> Though eventually beyond the scope of FishCAT, I would generally
> propose
> the idea of making "contributing publicity efforts" somehow a part
> worth (a small amount of?) FishCAT points. Let's motivate people
> to get
> out and tell the world about what happens in GlassFish developemt,
> about which features they eventually tested, which things are
> likely to
> come up in the next version... Maybe this could both recruit more
> people to be GlassFish testers _and_ GlassFish users/contributors. ;)
>
>
> This is a great idea Kristian. There is some info on the Wiki, but
> maybe we can make it more clear.
> Perhaps you would like to help with this ? It is a community process
> after all.
>
> There are some links on the page I sent, but maybe it can be polished
> up to attract the Cats ?
>
> We will of course be positively testing (make sure it works) and
> negatively testing (try to break it) all the 3.1 features quite soon,
> so we will need this information.
>
>
>
> That aside however: What is the "official" status of FishCAT
> related to
> GlassFish being a project now mainly driven forth by Oracle?
>
>
> Well, that is the great thing. The initial call for people in the
> community was done from Oracle.
> Judy has taken the role as test lead for Oracle WebLogic, but we still
> have her support and help if need be.
>
> regards
> Richard.
>
>
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