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RE: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward

From: Vladimir Perlov <vladperl_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:52:50 +0000

Hi Richard,Let me add a couple cents to the discussion.In my opinion FishCat points don't provide any serious level of motivation.I would say this kind of motivation could works only in kindergarten :)To create the real leverage we need to establish some kind of virtual currency instead of useless points.Probably you know about "dukes" that people could earn on Sun's forums or "votes" that could be used for voting project's features."Dukes", "votes" and "points" never really work in practice that for sure.To make it works you should radically change the current approach.The fist principle of any currency is providing buying power.Current buying power for points is only cat's title but that almost nothing. Without some kind of privileges that holder of the title should be able to use, title will provide very little incentive.In case you understand my point of view we could continue the related discussion on more detail level.
In the past I had a brief discussion with Judy regarding this topic and she was supportive on this. But that time Oracle was taking over Sun Microsystem and it wasn't very appropriate time to go further with it.Now I see again some understanding that people need to be motivated to do some testing so I'm bringing it up.
Best regards,Vladimir

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:14:26 +0200
From: rjdkolb_at_dev.java.net
To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
CC: mriem_at_manorrock.org
Subject: Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward

Hi Kristian

On 23 June 2010 11:54, Kristian Rink <rink_at_planconnect.de> wrote:

first off, thanks a bunch for your work, nice seeing FC is gaining

speed again. :)

:-) My pleasure
 


Am Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:33:39 +0200

schrieb Richard Kolb <rjdkolb_at_dev.java.net>:

> Here are some ideas. Comments and questions would be greatly

> welcomed! :) It's is still in the early stages of being defined, so

> please feel free to suggest anything; after all, it is your process.



Though eventually beyond the scope of FishCAT, I would generally propose

the idea of making "contributing publicity efforts" somehow a part

worth (a small amount of?) FishCAT points. Let's motivate people to get

out and tell the world about what happens in GlassFish developemt,

about which features they eventually tested, which things are likely to

come up in the next version... Maybe this could both recruit more

people to be GlassFish testers _and_ GlassFish users/contributors. ;)

This is a great idea Kristian. There is some info on the Wiki, but maybe we can make it more clear.
Perhaps you would like to help with this ? It is a community process after all.


There are some links on the page I sent, but maybe it can be polished up to attract the Cats ?

We will of course be positively testing (make sure it works) and negatively testing (try to break it) all the 3.1 features quite soon, so we will need this information.


 
That aside however: What is the "official" status of FishCAT related to

GlassFish being a project now mainly driven forth by Oracle?

Well, that is the great thing. The initial call for people in the community was done from Oracle.
Judy has taken the role as test lead for Oracle WebLogic, but we still have her support and help if need be.


regards
Richard.

                                               
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