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Re: Some Criticism On The Modularization

From: Adam Bien <abien_at_adam-bien.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:34:12 +0200

Pre-Installing an Update-Tool would be a good idea as well. It takes a
long time (several hundred files) to install...

regards,

adam

Judy Tang schrieb:
> Thanks Adam and thank Miro. In promote build b21 installer will
> install admin-console. It is a good idea to
> log this issue to give us your valuable experience. After this thread
> ends, Adam, would you please append
> all the discussion to this issue so we don't miss any good discussion
> here :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Judy
>
> Adam Bien wrote:
>
>> Hi Miro,
>>
>> sure - but the common cases should be available "out of the box". The
>> current installation model is cool, dynamic and flexible but neither
>> simple, robust nor pragmatic. It is important for marketing purposes,
>> to show the dynamic capabilites - but obvious stuff should be
>> prebundled.
>>
>> I do no see any advantage downloading needed parts "on demand". The
>> size of GF v2 was never a problem (actually noone complained in my
>> projects about this...).
>>
>> I would like to "keep it simple" - a "micro-kernel" edition should be
>> available as well - for "power users".
>>
>> Your idea, having a JSR-277 control unit, in NB is great.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> adam
>> Miroslav Nachev schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have one idea regarding of GF v3 management. The management to be
>>> done using NetBeans as platform for standalone or JWS (JNLP)
>>> application and NetBeans plugin which to be integrated in NetBeans
>>> 6.5+. This management to be not only for GF but for all
>>> JSR-277/JSR-291(OSGi) bundles. The transport unit between the OSGi
>>> framework and Management Application to be named Control Unit. This
>>> control unit to describe everything for the node tree and to provide
>>> the possible actions which can be done from that tree node.
>>> So, each bundle can provide such information or can be installed
>>> additional bundle which to provide Control Units for one or more
>>> bundles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Miro.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Adam Bien <abien_at_adam-bien.com
>>> <mailto:abien_at_adam-bien.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The modularization of GF v3 is great for the qualitity of the
>>> architecture and minimalization of footprint.
>>> It makes, however, the installation lot harder. For the end-user,
>>> it should come with similar experience as GF v2.
>>> Right now e.g. the admin-console has to be installed afterwards,
>>> although it is mostly needed. GF v3 should come with pre-installed
>>> profiles, the installation should be even easier, than the
>>> installation of GF v2... In best case, just download and start...
>>>
>>> I filed an enhancement regarding this issue:
>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5679,
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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