persistence@glassfish.java.net

Re: Idea for optimistic concurrency extension

From: Marina Vatkina <Marina.Vatkina_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:14:29 -0700

Adam,

Adam Bien wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This feature is one of many features that go beyond the spec that
>> should be considered for future inclusion in the product. We welcome
>> community involvement in all phases of the feature development cycle.
>
> How can this happen. Can we just commit the code? :-)

No, you need to follow the rules: :)

https://glassfish.dev.java.net/public/GuidelinesandConventions.html#Submit_a_Patch
https://glassfish.dev.java.net/public/GuidelinesandConventions.html#Commit_Procedures

thanks,
-marina

>
>>
>> This may be a good time to start the general discussion of configuring
>> and supporting things beyond the spec. Anyone have any thoughts on
>> how they would like to see advanced configuration (config beyond the
>> spec) handled?
>
> Custom annotations: org.glassfish etc. and XML could do the job. I'd
> prefer annotations, because then the dependency to Glassfish is more
> obvious. In case someone would like to migrate,
> the affected areas are more easily to identifiy. DD configuration should
> be of course also possible.
>
> I will post my next ideas from time to time here :-).
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Wonseok Kim [mailto:guruwons_at_gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:37 PM
>> *To:* persistence_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>> *Subject:* Re: Idea for optimistic concurrency extension
>>
>> Hi, Adam
>>
>> As I know TopLink Essentials has limited optimistic locking
>> feature - only version locking policy.
>> But TopLink itself has several other optimistic locking features -
>> field-based locking policy(all fields, changed fields or selected
>> fields).
>> See
>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/toplink/doc/1013/main/_html/descfg025.htm
>>
>>
>> I wonder that these extended features can be ported to TopLink
>> Essentials.
>> If Oracle is reluctant to do this due to its policy, other
>> developers may be able to do this by its own implementation.
>>
>> I don't know what is Oracle or Sun's policy about those kinds of
>> extended features.
>> Will the extended features of TopLink be migrated gradually to
>> TopLink Essentials? Or should GlassFish itself implement its own
>> implementation for those features? Or GlassFish won't do anything
>> about this, so users should implement those for themselves?
>>
>> -Wonseok
>>
>> On 8/9/06, *Adam Bien* <abien_at_adam-bien.com
>> <mailto:abien_at_adam-bien.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I discussed the following idea already with craig at the JAOO
>> 2005.
>>
>> Problem:
>>
>> If you detach a persistent entity send it to client, then
>> back, the
>> "before image" is lost.
>> In this case you need a version number or timestamp. You can
>> have a
>> problem, in case you are working with a legacy database - it
>> is often
>> hard or not allowed to change the schema.
>>
>> Now the following idea: why not send the before image together
>> with the
>> entity?
>> As a improvement also only the where statement could be sent
>> over the
>> wire. This should be sufficient to detect the collisions,
>>
>> I'm not sure, whether this list is the right place to discuss
>> the things
>> - but I think such a feature would be unique...
>>
>> greetings,
>>
>> adam
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- Wonseok Kim
>> Senior Developer, TmaxSoft
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