Hi Markus,
I am one of the leads for the entity-persistence module and have been
doing my best to follow this conversation. I am not sure how much help
I will be, but I'll add some comments.
I also struggled getting the build system going, so I feel your pain.
I am wondering if between Eduardo and I we can provide a way that you
can contribute to the entity-persistence part of the project (so that
you can allow MAX DB support in the Java Persistence API)
I have used both Eclipse and JDeveloper to work on the
entity-persistence and entity-persistence-tests modules. I currently
have working Eclipse projects that allow me to work with these projects.
The entity-persistence and entity-persistence-tests modules very
minimal dependancies on the rest of GlassFish (they need to because the
specification says they have to be portable)
I use CVS to check out the two modules mentioned above and have a
simple set of jars I depend on for compilation. My only real interation
with the GlassFish build system is to run the tests (something I am
hopeful that some of the folks at Sun can help you get going with
minimal pain.)
Let me know if allowing Max DB support on the Java Persistence API is
what you were interested in doing (unfortunately other parts of the
project are out of my area of expertise). If that is what you are
interested in doing, I'll do my best to give you the details of how I
have every thing working in Eclipse and you can let me know if the
instructions are manageable. If we can get you to the point that you
can work in a reasonably simple manner, all that remains is to get the
tests up and running and hopefully Eduardo can give us some help with
that part of things.
Let me know if this is of interest to you.
Best Regards,
Tom Ware
Markus KARG wrote:
>Eduardo,
>
>hope this will be soon, because I spent two more hours today in
>downloading the out-aged maven 1.0.2 on my machine and tried once more
>to get Glassfish built (following the rules on the Glassfish WebSite),
>but now maven is not working correctly, complaining about things
>non-maven-admins do not understand. So once more, I give up. If your
>project is ready for *FAST* contributing, I'll be glad to contribute
>then (please let me know by direct mail, since I will quite the
>subscription to this mailing list soon as it is of no more interest
>since I am not able to contribute my code). But until then, sorry, I
>need to prefer working around the missing MaxDB support in my
>application instead of contributing the MaxDB support to Glassfish. If I
>would have done so from the beginning, I would have saved more than once
>day of work. Sad, but true. As you see, now we're back as we had been on
>Monday: Still no MaxDB support in Glassfish, still not improved
>contribution process. I am sad about this, actually, but two days of
>frustration is enough. I am willing to spend my 20 years of experience
>in coding, but I am not willing spending more nerves on failing attempts
>to just compile the code. As you can seen, using maven not only has
>benefits. If the project structure just would be one src folder
>containing the complete source tree plus a simple build.xml, then you
>still would have modularization AND anybody could use Eclipse / ANT
>without spending days... :-(
>
>Markus
>
>Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart wrote:
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>
>>Hi Markus. I certainly agree; but sometimes, in a very large and
>>complex project, making it easy is not that easy :-(. But we are
>>seing a spike in interest in GlassFish so we are going to try to
>>improve this in the near future.
>>
>>THanks, and please keep your interest in GlassFish
>>
>> - eduard/o
>>
>>Markus KARG wrote:
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>>
>>>Eduardo,
>>>
>>>I have managed a dozen of open source projects on my own and know your
>>>problems certainly. But I learned one lesson very soon: If you have a
>>>lot of items on your stack and one of them is "make it easy for
>>>contributors to add their code", then do that before anything else. Why
>>>that? Because the easier it is to add small contributions, the more
>>>contributors will add code to the project. In turn, they will help you
>>>fix all the other items on your stack. If you do all the items on your
>>>own before making it easier to contribute code, then you will have to do
>>>all the work on your own while all the others cannot help you anything
>>>an get frustrated. I learned about that in my own projects, also in some
>>>projects I contributed to. So this is no critics, just a tip.
>>>
>>>If I find more time, I certainly will try out to contribute my changes
>>>for MaxDB (and maybe more) to Glassfish, but at the moment, I do not
>>>have the time to invest more time in the unnecessarily complex structure
>>>of the Glassfish code (in fact, the modularization is the main problem
>>>for Eclipse -- you have to add every single src folder manually, which
>>>needs hours of time).
>>>
>>>Have Fun
>>>Markus
>>>
>>>Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It must be possible to download the code and type "ant" or press
>>>>>Eclipse's "build" button if you want to receive SMALL contributions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>But
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>maybe you don't want them, actually?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Markus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, we want them. We are just your typical Open Source project:
>>>>there is always a long list of things to do.
>>>>
>>>>Let's see what others say.
>>>>
>>>> - eduard/o
>>>>
>>>>Markus KARG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>As I wrote yesterday, I just want to spent a few hours contributing
>>>>>the
>>>>>code necessary to support MaxDB / SAPDB (which shouldn't be much more
>>>>>than editing a copy of the Sybase adaptor class).
>>>>>
>>>>>After spending three hours for downloading the Glassfish source and
>>>>>trying to convince Eclipse to compile, I gave up now. I don't have
>>>>>time
>>>>>to find out how to compile the source any longer. I read thousands of
>>>>>lines of how-tos for using Netbeans (which I don't have installed) and
>>>>>Maven (which I am not aware how to use) but there is no SIMPLE info on
>>>>>how to just let ANT or Eclipse run to get it built.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey, remember, I just want to contribute one single class...!
>>>>>
>>>>>So is there a SIMPLE way to configure Eclipse to compile Glassfish
>>>>>available? Or is there build.xml I haven't found?
>>>>>
>>>>>I will neither learn how to use Netbeans nor how to administrate Maven
>>>>>just to contribute a class that is to be written in less than one
>>>>>hour. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>So if there is no simple way to compile Glassfish or to contribute my
>>>>>code in another way, I am sorry, then I have to abstain from
>>>>>contributing to Glassfish (sad, but true, but my time is scarce).
>>>>>
>>>>>It must be possible to download the code and type "ant" or press
>>>>>Eclipse's "build" button if you want to receive SMALL
>>>>>contributions. But
>>>>>maybe you don't want them, actually?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Markus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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