I guess, what Sahoo is trying to say is that admin port is lazily
initialized and not the admin service itself.
regards
sankar
Lloyd L Chambers wrote:
> I've been working in the startup code for over a month, and the Admin
> Service is started in PE and EE, rain or shine. So there is definitely
> a misunderstanding, but I don't see how it could be mine.
>
> I definitely do NOT agree that deferring startup of most services is a
> good idea.
>
> Doing so optimizes to sluggish response; start the server does a fake
> "I'm ready", then any attempt to use it immediately stops while the
> server starts something.
>
> This already happens with the GUI, and is really annoying. That's not
> an improvement, especially since 75% of the CPU time goes *unused* on
> my quad-core machine, and 50% on my dual-core (during startup). Even
> on single core machines there is I/O that idles the CPU for a time.
>
> Lloyd Chambers
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Sanjeeb Kumar Sahoo wrote:
>
>> I do think admin service is currently started on demand. Binod's
>> earlier response kind of confirmed it.
>> About reduction in start up time: even if you see a 40% reduction in
>> start up time, I am assuming we shall continue to start some
>> subsystems on demand only so that resource usage is optimized.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sahoo
>>
>> Lloyd L Chambers wrote:
>>> That is not correct. The AdminService is started in
>>> ApplicationServer as the very first ServerLifecycle module. It most
>>> defininitely is not started on demand.
>>>
>>> Much of what the AdminService does is required by other parts of the
>>> server. Disabling it would cause many other pieces to fail.
>>>
>>> I am working on threaded server startup, which includes the admin
>>> service. I am seeing a 40% reduction in startup time (real time) for
>>> a full startup (not quickstart).
>>>
>>> Lloyd Chambers.
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Sanjeeb Kumar Sahoo wrote:
>>>
>>>> We seem to be initializing the admin service only on demand. Would
>>>> it be better to initialize it in the back ground as soon as the
>>>> server starts? How often will there be a server running where there
>>>> will be no administration activity? By not initializing admin
>>>> service, who are we optimizing it for?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sahoo
>>>>
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