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[jms-spec users] Re: [ejb-spec users] Re: [jsr345-experts] Fwd: [jsr342-experts] proposed MDB improvements

From: Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:09:54 -0700

Philippe,

There is a difference in the timing of those requests. The MDB feature
request came in a long time ago, and was under various discussions until
it got an overwhelming support by the EJB community. In any other case
it wouldn't have made it into the spec at this late stage.

HTH,
-marina

On 3/18/13 2:54 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
>
> On 11.03.2013 05:36, Marina Vatkina wrote:
>> Philippe,
>>
>> On 3/10/13 7:56 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08.03.2013 20:22, Marina Vatkina wrote:
>>>> Experts,
>>>>
>>>> This is our chance at modernizing MDBs in the Java EE 7 release.
>>>
>>> We'll quite frankly I don't wee why massive changes like this one can
>>> make it in at such a late time but absolutely minor changes like
>>> making existing methods return generic instead of raw types and
>>> supporting Exception#getCause() have to wait at least for another four
>>> years.
>>
>> Were these requests ever filed in the ejb-spec JIRA? If they were not,
>> we didn't know about them. If they were and we missed them - sorry. An
>> API change is a tricky thing because what can be seen as a simple
>> change, might break an existing application (or cause unnecessary
>> warnings for that matter).
>>
>> That said, which Exception#getCause() do you have in mind? All EJB
>> exceptions inherit getCause from Throwable.
>
> [1], [2], OK different spec but very closely related [3] and same EE7
> schedule.
>
> [1] http://java.net/jira/browse/JMS_SPEC-108
> [2] http://java.net/jira/browse/JMS_SPEC-113
> [3] http://java.net/jira/browse/JMS_SPEC-116
>
> Cheers
> Philippe