Can you please post the link to the SIP RFC?
Thanks
Markus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Imran M Yousuf [mailto:imran_at_smartitengineering.com]
> Sent: Montag, 8. September 2008 10:44
> To: users_at_jersey.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: [Jersey] Paper tigers and hidden dragons
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Markus KARG <markus.karg_at_gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > I do not know Comet, but I know SIP. Since SIP stands for "Session
> > Initiation Protocol", it might solve the technical problem but I feel
> it is
> > a strong misuse of it's core intention (initiating a session). Isn't
> XMPP
> > the ideal solution? I mean, it was actually invented for pushing any
> XML
> > information snippet. So why not using it?
> >
>
> Yes SIP was originally designed just for initially, but later SIP was
> extended and redesinged to support Message Sub-pub as well. Why not
> using XMPP, first reason is because of it not being a JSR yet and
> secondly because of our familiarity with JAIN SIP API. IMO, for my
> case and yours SIP would serve wonderfully, I would actually recommend
> it :).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Imran
>
> > Have Fun
> > Markus
> >
> >> In fact for a similar poll type requirement we are considering 2
> >> options - Comet and SIP Servlets. SIP packets can also contain
> custom
> >> MIME types and thats a standard (JSR-289, JSR-32, JSR-141), so thats
> a
> >> strong candidate, for me at least :).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Imran
> >>
> >> > application. So it is interesting to see what will happen in the
> next
> >> time
> >> > on this sector. Maybe someone comes up with a JMS implementation
> (JMS
> >> is a
> >> > standard, so we can use it) that is configurable to internally use
> >> SMTP or
> >> > XMPP as its native protocol, who knows? ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Have Fun
> >> >
> >> > Markus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM]
> >> > Sent: Montag, 8. September 2008 08:43
> >> > To: users_at_jersey.dev.java.net
> >> > Subject: Re: [Jersey] Paper tigers and hidden dragons
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 5, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Markus KARG wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Paul,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thank you for posting the link. It was really interesting to read.
> >> While I
> >> > share Roy's conclusion, I actually think that XMPP is very
> >> interesting and
> >> > maybe in some future the world might accept that there are two
> >> general
> >> > purpose protocols: HTTP for polling services, and XMPP for pushing
> >> services.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Could be :-) the sometimes difficult part is to know when to
> >> correctly apply
> >> > what technology.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Maybe JAX-RS 3.0 will support it? ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It would be interesting to see if XMPP and RESTful services can be
> >> combined
> >> > in terms of a Web application. There may be a lot of similarities
> >> with XMPP
> >> > and Comet in this respect.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paul.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Markus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM]
> >> > Sent: Freitag, 5. September 2008 10:17
> >> > To: users_at_jersey.dev.java.net
> >> > Subject: [Jersey] Paper tigers and hidden dragons
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For those interested in designing HTTP-based systems Roy's latest
> >> blog entry
> >> > is an excellent piece of thinking [*] about creating URIs and
> >> scaling:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/paper-tigers-and-hidden-dragons
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (the comments are interesting too, especially the XMPP and SMTP
> >> comparison).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > When i briefly looked at the REST and XMPP presentation (and the
> blog
> >> > entries about it) my right eyebrow did raise slightly in
> skepticism
> >> as to
> >> > why the example chosen could not be solved using plain old HTTP,
> but
> >> then i
> >> > moved on and got distracted by something else. In the less than 30
> >> seconds
> >> > it took for me to be skeptical Roy had a solution, oh well :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paul.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [*] If It Doesn't Fit, Resource It
> >> >
> >> > http://www.crummy.com/2008/09/04/0
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Imran M Yousuf
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