On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Markus KARG <markus.karg_at_gmx.net> wrote:
> I do not know Comet, but I know SIP. Since SIP stands for "Session
> Initiation Protocol", it might solve the technical problem but I feel it is
> a strong misuse of it's core intention (initiating a session). Isn't XMPP
> the ideal solution? I mean, it was actually invented for pushing any XML
> information snippet. So why not using it?
>
Yes SIP was originally designed just for initially, but later SIP was
extended and redesinged to support Message Sub-pub as well. Why not
using XMPP, first reason is because of it not being a JSR yet and
secondly because of our familiarity with JAIN SIP API. IMO, for my
case and yours SIP would serve wonderfully, I would actually recommend
it :).
Best regards,
Imran
> Have Fun
> Markus
>
>> In fact for a similar poll type requirement we are considering 2
>> options - Comet and SIP Servlets. SIP packets can also contain custom
>> MIME types and thats a standard (JSR-289, JSR-32, JSR-141), so thats a
>> strong candidate, for me at least :).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Imran
>>
>> > application. So it is interesting to see what will happen in the next
>> time
>> > on this sector. Maybe someone comes up with a JMS implementation (JMS
>> is a
>> > standard, so we can use it) that is configurable to internally use
>> SMTP or
>> > XMPP as its native protocol, who knows? ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Have Fun
>> >
>> > Markus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM]
>> > Sent: Montag, 8. September 2008 08:43
>> > To: users_at_jersey.dev.java.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Jersey] Paper tigers and hidden dragons
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sep 5, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Markus KARG wrote:
>> >
>> > Paul,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > thank you for posting the link. It was really interesting to read.
>> While I
>> > share Roy's conclusion, I actually think that XMPP is very
>> interesting and
>> > maybe in some future the world might accept that there are two
>> general
>> > purpose protocols: HTTP for polling services, and XMPP for pushing
>> services.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Could be :-) the sometimes difficult part is to know when to
>> correctly apply
>> > what technology.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Maybe JAX-RS 3.0 will support it? ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It would be interesting to see if XMPP and RESTful services can be
>> combined
>> > in terms of a Web application. There may be a lot of similarities
>> with XMPP
>> > and Comet in this respect.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Markus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Paul.Sandoz_at_Sun.COM]
>> > Sent: Freitag, 5. September 2008 10:17
>> > To: users_at_jersey.dev.java.net
>> > Subject: [Jersey] Paper tigers and hidden dragons
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > For those interested in designing HTTP-based systems Roy's latest
>> blog entry
>> > is an excellent piece of thinking [*] about creating URIs and
>> scaling:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/paper-tigers-and-hidden-dragons
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > (the comments are interesting too, especially the XMPP and SMTP
>> comparison).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > When i briefly looked at the REST and XMPP presentation (and the blog
>> > entries about it) my right eyebrow did raise slightly in skepticism
>> as to
>> > why the example chosen could not be solved using plain old HTTP, but
>> then i
>> > moved on and got distracted by something else. In the less than 30
>> seconds
>> > it took for me to be skeptical Roy had a solution, oh well :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [*] If It Doesn't Fit, Resource It
>> >
>> > http://www.crummy.com/2008/09/04/0
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Imran M Yousuf
>> Entrepreneur & Software Engineer
>> Smart IT Engineering
>> Dhaka, Bangladesh
>> Email: imran_at_smartitengineering.com
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