[jax-rs-spec users] [jsr339-experts] Re: Re: Re: MVC

From: Marek Potociar <>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:15:29 +0200

On 03 Jun 2014, at 13:29, Sergey Beryozkin <> wrote:

> By the way
> On 03/06/14 11:56, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> Hi Bill
>> On 02/06/14 13:32, Bill Burke wrote:
>>> So far I just have little things that I've run into over the past year:
>>> * Basic Auth support in the client API
>>> * Allow ContainerRequestContext and ContainerResponseContext to be
>>> injectable via @Context.
>>> * add method for obtaining client IP address to ContainerRequestContext
>>> * Injectable ContainerRequestContext allows properties to be viewed/set
>>> in JAX-RS methods
>>> * Injectable ContainerResponseContext allows Locators to add things like
>>> cookies to the response.
>>> * Some standard way of doing a forward like in Servlet spec.
>>> * Allow filters to be bindable via a @Path expression.
>>> * @Context should work directly with application class. i.e. you should
>>> be able to inject
>>> class MyApplication extends Application {}
>>> via
>>> @Context MyApplication app;
> @Context Application app;
> is definitely expected to work today, right ? I believe I've seen TCK tests enforcing it...

Yes, this is expected to work. (Sect. 9.2.1 of JAX-RS 2.0 spec.)


> Cheers, Sergey
>> All of it is possibly a very good list of improvements but I'm not
>> seeing it qualifying for as in really the next phase of
>> JAX-RS development/improvement, it is a list of improving of what we
>> already have, except for
>> "Some standard way of doing a forward like in Servlet spec."
>> I read it as "support MVC" :-). I'm not 100% sure how Jersey does,
>> probably via RequestDispatcher.forward too, but this is how CXF
>> 'controls' binding the 'model' to the 'view' handlers
>> Sergey
>>> On 6/2/2014 6:58 AM, Marek Potociar wrote:
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>> Now we already do know a few things that you do not like to see in
>>>> I would however also would like to know what are the
>>>> things that you would like to see in
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marek
>>>> On 30 May 2014, at 21:11, Bill Burke <> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/23/2014 4:36 AM, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> On 22/05/14 22:05, Santiago Pericas-Geertsen wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>>> As you may have seen in the Java EE 8 survey, there was significant
>>>>>>> interest in adding an MVC framework to the platform in EE 8. After
>>>>>>> some analysis, we are convinced that the best place for this work is
>>>>>>> in In fact, as many of you may recall, this was on our
>>>>>>> list for JAX-RS 2.0 but we've never got a chance to discuss it in any
>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>> I'm aware of some discussion in the JSF alias in relation to MVC in
>>>>>>> general, and its support as part of JAX-RS in particular. I plan to
>>>>>>> send an e-mail to the JSF alias as a way to establish a liaison
>>>>>>> between the two groups. I believe their expertise would be of great
>>>>>>> value for us and will help us design a framework that addresses the
>>>>>>> requirements of the EE community.
>>>>>> Look forward to JAX-RS supporting MVC and SSE. As far as the future
>>>>>> JAX-RS MVC is concerned, I hope it will not only target EE users
>>>>>> though
>>>>>> :-). i.e, it would work even if no JSF is available, but of course the
>>>>>> input from JSF experts will be of great interest.
>>>>>> Using Jersey MVC as a template would be a nice start IMHO, we have a
>>>>>> less involved support for it, but I think it is close enough to the
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> Jersey does it in some cases.
>>>>> I am 100% against MVC in JAX-RS. Are we really going to introduce a
>>>>> legacy and now defunct pattern to JAX-RS? The trend and future is
>>>>> Angular JS or GWT apps with simple RESTful back ends.
>>>>> This is wrong guys. You will regret adding and it will end up on the
>>>>> long list of Java EE features that nobody uses and bloat we'll have
>>>>> to support.
>>>>> SSE and now MVC, I'm really disappointed in the direction of JAX-RS.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bill Burke
>>>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat