[jax-rs-spec users] [jsr339-experts] Re: Re: MVC

From: Sergey Beryozkin <>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:29:49 +0100

By the way
On 03/06/14 11:56, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
> Hi Bill
> On 02/06/14 13:32, Bill Burke wrote:
>> So far I just have little things that I've run into over the past year:
>> * Basic Auth support in the client API
>> * Allow ContainerRequestContext and ContainerResponseContext to be
>> injectable via @Context.
>> * add method for obtaining client IP address to ContainerRequestContext
>> * Injectable ContainerRequestContext allows properties to be viewed/set
>> in JAX-RS methods
>> * Injectable ContainerResponseContext allows Locators to add things like
>> cookies to the response.
>> * Some standard way of doing a forward like in Servlet spec.
>> * Allow filters to be bindable via a @Path expression.
>> * @Context should work directly with application class. i.e. you should
>> be able to inject
>> class MyApplication extends Application {}
>> via
>> @Context MyApplication app;

@Context Application app;

is definitely expected to work today, right ? I believe I've seen TCK
tests enforcing it...

Cheers, Sergey
> All of it is possibly a very good list of improvements but I'm not
> seeing it qualifying for as in really the next phase of
> JAX-RS development/improvement, it is a list of improving of what we
> already have, except for
> "Some standard way of doing a forward like in Servlet spec."
> I read it as "support MVC" :-). I'm not 100% sure how Jersey does,
> probably via RequestDispatcher.forward too, but this is how CXF
> 'controls' binding the 'model' to the 'view' handlers
> Sergey
>> On 6/2/2014 6:58 AM, Marek Potociar wrote:
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> Now we already do know a few things that you do not like to see in
>>> I would however also would like to know what are the
>>> things that you would like to see in
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marek
>>> On 30 May 2014, at 21:11, Bill Burke <> wrote:
>>>> On 5/23/2014 4:36 AM, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> On 22/05/14 22:05, Santiago Pericas-Geertsen wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>> As you may have seen in the Java EE 8 survey, there was significant
>>>>>> interest in adding an MVC framework to the platform in EE 8. After
>>>>>> some analysis, we are convinced that the best place for this work is
>>>>>> in In fact, as many of you may recall, this was on our
>>>>>> list for JAX-RS 2.0 but we've never got a chance to discuss it in any
>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>> I'm aware of some discussion in the JSF alias in relation to MVC in
>>>>>> general, and its support as part of JAX-RS in particular. I plan to
>>>>>> send an e-mail to the JSF alias as a way to establish a liaison
>>>>>> between the two groups. I believe their expertise would be of great
>>>>>> value for us and will help us design a framework that addresses the
>>>>>> requirements of the EE community.
>>>>> Look forward to JAX-RS supporting MVC and SSE. As far as the future
>>>>> JAX-RS MVC is concerned, I hope it will not only target EE users
>>>>> though
>>>>> :-). i.e, it would work even if no JSF is available, but of course the
>>>>> input from JSF experts will be of great interest.
>>>>> Using Jersey MVC as a template would be a nice start IMHO, we have a
>>>>> less involved support for it, but I think it is close enough to the
>>>>> way
>>>>> Jersey does it in some cases.
>>>> I am 100% against MVC in JAX-RS. Are we really going to introduce a
>>>> legacy and now defunct pattern to JAX-RS? The trend and future is
>>>> Angular JS or GWT apps with simple RESTful back ends.
>>>> This is wrong guys. You will regret adding and it will end up on the
>>>> long list of Java EE features that nobody uses and bloat we'll have
>>>> to support.
>>>> SSE and now MVC, I'm really disappointed in the direction of JAX-RS.
>>>> --
>>>> Bill Burke
>>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat