jsr370-experts@jax-rs-spec.java.net

Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

From: Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:36:42 +0000


Hi Santiago

Great, thanks for the update [😊]

Cheers, Sergey

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From: Santiago Pericasgeertsen <santiago.pericasgeertsen_at_oracle.com>
Sent: 29 June 2015 13:57
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

Hi Sergey,

 You’re still on the list ;) The overall schedule for Java EE 8 has been revised [1], so we have a bit more time. We have been doing some work internally that we’ll be sharing shortly. Marek is on vacation now and will be in the few weeks; I hope to resume discussions towards the end of July. The plan is to have an EDR ready in time for JavaOne.

— Santiago

[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/java_ee_8_roadmap_update

On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Sergey Beryozkin <sberyozkin_at_talend.com<mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com>> wrote:

Hi All

I'm a bit concerned that 6 months after the group started its work I've no idea what is happening, what the plans are.
I actually was concerned I got unsubscribed :-), any chance some update can be posted ? I'm concerned that at some point we will just see the proposals coming in with the little time and scope left for doing the reasonable discussion

Thanks, Sergey


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From: Sergey Beryozkin
Sent: 21 April 2015 22:50
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net<mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

Basically, it does not matter for CXF, as we won;t start a 2.1 work in
the short term either way. But as I said, perhaps one should think about
users who won't be able to move to Java 8 in the short or medium term
On 21/04/15 22:47, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
No, your analysis of what I was trying to say is misleading, but I'm not
going to try and convince you otherwise...


On 21/04/15 22:44, Markus KARG wrote:
Yes, implicitly you suggested not to use Java 8 features, as your
proposal
would only work if we would know beforehand the result of the API changes
needed for each planned feature, whether they might need Java 8 APIs
or not.
Hence I do not see that as a realistic option unless anybody can
anticipate
that for one particular feature Java 8 APIs are definitively not an
option.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 22:04
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net<mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

Of course if all the 2.1 features will absolutely need Java 8 then so
be it,
my point basically is that if we start from Java 8 and yet some 2.1
features
won't actually depend on Java 8 then I reckon the adoption of
2.1 will be prolonged...
That said - may be some people still considering migrating from 1.1 to
2.0 :-), so I don;t know...

Sergey


On 21/04/15 20:50, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
Have I suggested not to use Jave 8 features ? I don't think so...
Sergey


On 21/04/15 17:25, Markus KARG wrote:
This might lead to worse API choices as it constraints us to not use
new Java 8 features.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 12:59
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net<mailto:jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net>
Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule

Hi

As I've suggested earlier, it might make sense to start from working
on JAX-RS 2.1 features that can still run with JDK 1.7 - simply to
make the adoption of 2.1 faster for the existing JDK 1.7 users and
get the features depending on Java 8 language features in the
end/second half of the 2.1 development life-cycle. Not sure how
realistic it is though

Sergey

On 13/04/15 20:42, Santiago Pericas-Geertsen wrote:

On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu<mailto:markus_at_headcrashing.eu>
<mailto:markus_at_headcrashing.eu>> wrote:

Santiago,
can you please publish an updated schedule for JSR 370 as the
original scheduled apparently is void already. It says there is an
early draft in Q1/2015 and PR in Q3/2015, which apparently does not
exist.

   I will, once I get a chance to review it with Marek.

Also I'd like to ask for clarification on Java 8: Will the new API
support Lambdas and Streams, hence make the use of Java SE 8
mandatory?

   Possibly. We certainly want to take advantage of SE 8 features,
but we also feel that by the time EE 8 is out, SE 8 will be the
mainstream version. As a data point, I believe Oracle will not
provide any more public updates of SE 7 after this month.

- Santiago







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