Hi All
I'm a bit concerned that 6 months after the group started its work I've no idea what is happening, what the plans are.
I actually was concerned I got unsubscribed :-), any chance some update can be posted ? I'm concerned that at some point we will just see the proposals coming in with the little time and scope left for doing the reasonable discussion
Thanks, Sergey
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From: Sergey Beryozkin
Sent: 21 April 2015 22:50
To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
Basically, it does not matter for CXF, as we won;t start a 2.1 work in
the short term either way. But as I said, perhaps one should think about
users who won't be able to move to Java 8 in the short or medium term
On 21/04/15 22:47, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
> No, your analysis of what I was trying to say is misleading, but I'm not
> going to try and convince you otherwise...
>
>
> On 21/04/15 22:44, Markus KARG wrote:
>> Yes, implicitly you suggested not to use Java 8 features, as your
>> proposal
>> would only work if we would know beforehand the result of the API changes
>> needed for each planned feature, whether they might need Java 8 APIs
>> or not.
>> Hence I do not see that as a realistic option unless anybody can
>> anticipate
>> that for one particular feature Java 8 APIs are definitively not an
>> option.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
>> Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 22:04
>> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>> Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
>>
>> Of course if all the 2.1 features will absolutely need Java 8 then so
>> be it,
>> my point basically is that if we start from Java 8 and yet some 2.1
>> features
>> won't actually depend on Java 8 then I reckon the adoption of
>> 2.1 will be prolonged...
>> That said - may be some people still considering migrating from 1.1 to
>> 2.0 :-), so I don;t know...
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>>
>> On 21/04/15 20:50, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>> Have I suggested not to use Jave 8 features ? I don't think so...
>>> Sergey
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/04/15 17:25, Markus KARG wrote:
>>>> This might lead to worse API choices as it constraints us to not use
>>>> new Java 8 features.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sergey Beryozkin [mailto:sberyozkin_at_talend.com]
>>>> Sent: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 12:59
>>>> To: jsr370-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
>>>> Subject: Re: JSR 370 Updated Schedule
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> As I've suggested earlier, it might make sense to start from working
>>>> on JAX-RS 2.1 features that can still run with JDK 1.7 - simply to
>>>> make the adoption of 2.1 faster for the existing JDK 1.7 users and
>>>> get the features depending on Java 8 language features in the
>>>> end/second half of the 2.1 development life-cycle. Not sure how
>>>> realistic it is though
>>>>
>>>> Sergey
>>>>
>>>> On 13/04/15 20:42, Santiago Pericas-Geertsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Markus KARG <markus_at_headcrashing.eu
>>>>>> <mailto:markus_at_headcrashing.eu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Santiago,
>>>>>> can you please publish an updated schedule for JSR 370 as the
>>>>>> original scheduled apparently is void already. It says there is an
>>>>>> early draft in Q1/2015 and PR in Q3/2015, which apparently does not
>>>>>> exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will, once I get a chance to review it with Marek.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also I'd like to ask for clarification on Java 8: Will the new API
>>>>>> support Lambdas and Streams, hence make the use of Java SE 8
>>>>>> mandatory?
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly. We certainly want to take advantage of SE 8 features,
>>>>> but we also feel that by the time EE 8 is out, SE 8 will be the
>>>>> mainstream version. As a data point, I believe Oracle will not
>>>>> provide any more public updates of SE 7 after this month.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Santiago
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sergey Beryozkin
>>
>> Talend Community Coders
>> http://coders.talend.com/
>>
>> Blog: http://sberyozkin.blogspot.com
>>
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