Santiago,
I understand that there is a schedule, but as the API will be hard to fix if
we break it right from the start, it must be more essential to do few things
well instead of to do lots of things worse. So let's drop low priority
points as soon as the schedule is in danger, but let's work relaxed and
concentrated on the client API now. This project is just too essential to
hurry up just because someone wants to keep a deadline. Enterprise users
will not be happy with an eary release, but they will be happy with a STABLE
and WELL-ENGINEERED release. :-)
About the Oracle proposal: Paul Sandoz and Marc Hadley provided a proposal
for HATEOAS support months back. That one I meant.
Regards
Markus
From: Santiago Pericas-Geertsen [mailto:Santiago.PericasGeertsen_at_oracle.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 16:09
To: jsr339-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: [jsr339-experts] Re: Hypermedia Proposals
Hi Markus,
See inline.
as the Client API and Hypermedia both are very essential parts of this
project, I want to object your suggestion. First, discussing Hypermedia and
Client API parallel makes things more complex. Let's concentrate on the
Client and when we have agreed upon a proposal, we can concentrate on
Hypermedia.
I understand your point, but we have agreed on a schedule earlier on and
it's important that we stick to it. In order to cover all the important
topics by Early Draft, we'll need to discuss more than one at a time.
Second, one week is a bit short to come up with a proposal, as most of us
are not working full time on JAX-RS or might just be on holidays.
My suggestion was not to come up with a new proposal in week one. Instead,
it was a request for submission of any earlier work done in this area or any
new ideas that are not fully fleshed out but are worth exploring.
Having said that, you're right about the holidays. Let's extend this a
couple of weeks to Friday 7/22.
Also, there was a great proposal from Oracle already and I think that one
would be a good start. Why not publishing that one first instead of starting
with a blank page? I can remember that there was a lifely discussion about
that proposal back then so that would be a good start.
Oracle people were involved in more than one proposal in this area. Which
one are you referring to?
-- Santiago
From: Santiago Pericas-Geertsen [mailto:Santiago.PericasGeertsen_at_oracle.com]
Sent: Freitag, 1. Juli 2011 19:48
To: jsr339-experts_at_jax-rs-spec.java.net
Subject: [jsr339-experts] Hypermedia Proposals
Hello Experts,
Even though we are still discussing a few topics for i01, we are officially
in i02 according to our schedule. Based on our initial plan, one of the
largest and most interesting topics in i02 is hypermedia.
I may be wrong, but I expect experts to have widely different ideas on how
to support hypermedia and HATEOAS. For that reason, I created a blank wiki
page [1] to collect proposals. Feel free to create other wiki pages on that
site or add links to papers, other wikis, etc. on that page. Make sure to
write your name next to the proposal as well.
Since we are a bit behind schedule, let's try to collect these within a
week. Even if you don't have a complete proposal, just create an entry there
that you can add more details to later.
Thanks.
-- Santiago
[1]
http://java.net/projects/jax-rs-spec/pages/Hypermedia