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[jsr344-experts mirror] [jsr344-experts] Re: [1089-PassThroughAttributes] JSON dependency: OK?

From: Edward Burns <edward.burns_at_oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:29:05 -0700

On 6/26/12 1:26 PM, Edward Burns wrote:

EB> I need those of you that feel strongly that we should have JSON support
EB> to voice their opinion here because requiring JSON means an additional
EB> library dependency.

>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:34:39 -0400, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz_at_oracle.com> said:

AS> Is JSR 353 (Java API for JSON Processing) going to make it into the Java
AS> EE7 spec? If so, perhaps we should consider holding off on introducing
AS> a JSON dependency until we can rely on this standard API.

>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:25:50 +0200, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> said:

WK> Guess only Linda and other EE 7 Leaders know for sure.
WK> I am 353 EG Member, but have not seen any activity there yet.

On 6/28/12 9:29 AM, Kito Mann wrote:

KM> I think this is probably worth it, since there are so few dependencies
KM> already. One of my clients does some custom JSON parsing; they were
KM> using the libraries that ship with WAS, but now they use the ones
KM> included with PrimeFaces. However, I've worked with several clients
KM> that wouldn't go down that path.

>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:58:50 -0400, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz_at_oracle.com> said:

AS> Fortunately, jsr-353 is addressing exactly this use case. Not sure
AS> whether JSF should itself force this dependency now, or hold off a bit
AS> until jsr-353 is integrated into the Java EE platform. Of course, if
AS> jsr-353 isn't going to make it for Java EE7, I would be more tempted to
AS> force the dependency.

>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Phil Webb <pwebb_at_vmware.com> said:

PW> I would prefer to not see a mandatory dependency but don't have a
PW> big problem with optional dependency. Still, my gut feeling is that
PW> adding a jsonToMap() function is something that the developer should
PW> be doing themselves for now rather than being provided.

PW> Perhaps in the future, when JSR-353 is final, passThroughAttributes
PW> could be changed to support JSON Strings directly?

I'm in the process of finding out the status of JSR-353 relative to EE7.

In the meantime, I propose we modify the spec for this function to say
that it is only required to work in containers that have a JSON parser
available. Given how strongly the community feels about this, and how
isolated and self-contained it is, I'd like to leave it in.

Does that sound good?

Ed

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