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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Re: Deprecating types in javax.faces.bean package?

From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:07:39 +0200

Hi,

Thanks for the support. I'll look into @ManagedProperty soon then.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Arjan...no objections here! This is certainly going to help
> clarify things for those who are not familiar with the difference between
> Faces and CDI scopes.
>
> +1 on implementing a replacement for @ManagedProperty.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau001_at_gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:13 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As there were no objections after a week, I went ahead and prepared the
>> change set. It can be previewed here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/jsf-spec/mojarra/commit/2f9e0152559d33324627c66209eb2511e03e20c0
>>
>> If there are no further objections I'd like to push this to java.net
>> soon.
>>
>> One thing to note, there currently is no replacement for
>> @ManagedProperty. I'd like to provide a simple one roughly based on
>> Manfred's blog from a while back, but as a Bean<T> instead with the ability
>> to inject into various types. See
>> http://manorrock.com/blog/2013/11/01/jsf_tip_31_migrate_your_managedproperty_annotations.html
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:32 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Neil Griffin <
>>> neil.griffin_at_portletfaces.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for an API change, indicating that annotations from javax.faces.bean
>>>> are deprecated.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, I recall a conversation with Manfred in which he suggested
>>>> having the legacy Managed Bean Facility utilize CDI under-the-hood. I think
>>>> we should not do that because it would create complications for the JSF
>>>> Portlet Bridge since the scope/meaning of javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped
>>>> and javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped are not equal in a portlet
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I remember that this idea was pitched, but we're not doing that as far
>>> as I know and I don't think there are any plans anymore to pursue that. So
>>> no worries ;) Thanks for the reminder!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On May 19, 2016, at 5:12 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > It's about time. I've already prepared the community for years that
>>>> @ManagedBean and friends are going to be deprecated.
>>>> >
>>>> > +1 definitely.
>>>> >
>>>> > When mentioning alternative for @ManagedProperty, don't mention only
>>>> @Inject but also explain @Produces possibility and all those new CDI
>>>> qualifiers for JSF artifacts.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sure, thanks for the feedback. I'll prepare a changeset in the
>>>> upstream/staging repo first, which everyone can look at and provide further
>>>> feedback on if needed. If there are no objections I'll then push that
>>>> changeset through to java.net.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers, B
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:44 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for the support Michael en Paul :) I've created
>>>> https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-1417 in
>>>> support of this.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Paul Nicolucci <pnicoluc_at_us.ibm.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > +1
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Paul Nicolucci
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > <graycol.gif>Michael Müller ---05/18/2016 03:40:02 PM---+99999 (at
>>>> least) This avoids a commonly Seen problem
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Michael Müller <michael.mueller_at_mueller-bruehl.de>
>>>> > To: jsr372-experts_at_javaserverfaces-spec-public.java.net
>>>> > Date: 05/18/2016 03:40 PM
>>>> > Subject: [jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Deprecating
>>>> types in javax.faces.bean package?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > +99999 (at least)
>>>> >
>>>> > This avoids a commonly Seen problem
>>>> > --
>>>> > Herzliche Grüße, best regards
>>>> > Michael Müller
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 18. Mai 2016 20:43:11 MESZ, schrieb arjan tijms <
>>>> arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > As it's been clear for some time we're moving away from the JSF
>>>> native managed bean facility, I'd like to propose deprecating all the types
>>>> in the javax.faces.bean package via the @deprecated annotation and/or
>>>> javadoc, and mention what the alternative is now.
>>>> >
>>>> > This would particularly be helpful with things like
>>>> javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped vs javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped,
>>>> where people not rarely import the wrong version.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thoughts?
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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