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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Re: Deprecating types in javax.faces.bean package?

From: Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:51:54 -0500

Thanks Arjan...no objections here! This is certainly going to help clarify
things for those who are not familiar with the difference between Faces and
CDI scopes.

+1 on implementing a replacement for @ManagedProperty.

Josh Juneau
juneau001_at_gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:13 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As there were no objections after a week, I went ahead and prepared the
> change set. It can be previewed here:
>
>
> https://github.com/jsf-spec/mojarra/commit/2f9e0152559d33324627c66209eb2511e03e20c0
>
> If there are no further objections I'd like to push this to java.net soon.
>
> One thing to note, there currently is no replacement for @ManagedProperty.
> I'd like to provide a simple one roughly based on Manfred's blog from a
> while back, but as a Bean<T> instead with the ability to inject into
> various types. See
> http://manorrock.com/blog/2013/11/01/jsf_tip_31_migrate_your_managedproperty_annotations.html
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:32 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Neil Griffin <
>> neil.griffin_at_portletfaces.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for an API change, indicating that annotations from javax.faces.bean
>>> are deprecated.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>>
>>> However, I recall a conversation with Manfred in which he suggested
>>> having the legacy Managed Bean Facility utilize CDI under-the-hood. I think
>>> we should not do that because it would create complications for the JSF
>>> Portlet Bridge since the scope/meaning of javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped
>>> and javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped are not equal in a portlet
>>> environment.
>>>
>>
>> I remember that this idea was pitched, but we're not doing that as far as
>> I know and I don't think there are any plans anymore to pursue that. So no
>> worries ;) Thanks for the reminder!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > On May 19, 2016, at 5:12 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's about time. I've already prepared the community for years that
>>> @ManagedBean and friends are going to be deprecated.
>>> >
>>> > +1 definitely.
>>> >
>>> > When mentioning alternative for @ManagedProperty, don't mention only
>>> @Inject but also explain @Produces possibility and all those new CDI
>>> qualifiers for JSF artifacts.
>>> >
>>> > Sure, thanks for the feedback. I'll prepare a changeset in the
>>> upstream/staging repo first, which everyone can look at and provide further
>>> feedback on if needed. If there are no objections I'll then push that
>>> changeset through to java.net.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, B
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:44 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the support Michael en Paul :) I've created
>>> https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-1417 in
>>> support of this.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Paul Nicolucci <pnicoluc_at_us.ibm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > +1
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Paul Nicolucci
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > <graycol.gif>Michael Müller ---05/18/2016 03:40:02 PM---+99999 (at
>>> least) This avoids a commonly Seen problem
>>> >
>>> > From: Michael Müller <michael.mueller_at_mueller-bruehl.de>
>>> > To: jsr372-experts_at_javaserverfaces-spec-public.java.net
>>> > Date: 05/18/2016 03:40 PM
>>> > Subject: [jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Deprecating
>>> types in javax.faces.bean package?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +99999 (at least)
>>> >
>>> > This avoids a commonly Seen problem
>>> > --
>>> > Herzliche Grüße, best regards
>>> > Michael Müller
>>> >
>>> > Am 18. Mai 2016 20:43:11 MESZ, schrieb arjan tijms <
>>> arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > As it's been clear for some time we're moving away from the JSF native
>>> managed bean facility, I'd like to propose deprecating all the types in the
>>> javax.faces.bean package via the @deprecated annotation and/or javadoc, and
>>> mention what the alternative is now.
>>> >
>>> > This would particularly be helpful with things like
>>> javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped vs javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped,
>>> where people not rarely import the wrong version.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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