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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Re: Deprecating types in javax.faces.bean package?

From: Neil Griffin <neil.griffin_at_portletfaces.org>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:32:43 -0400

+1 for the @ManagedProperty replacement. Thanks so much for working on this Arjan.

> On May 26, 2016, at 11:07 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Thanks for the support. I'll look into @ManagedProperty soon then.
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> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Arjan...no objections here! This is certainly going to help clarify things for those who are not familiar with the difference between Faces and CDI scopes.
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> +1 on implementing a replacement for @ManagedProperty.
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> Josh Juneau
> juneau001_at_gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
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> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:13 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
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> As there were no objections after a week, I went ahead and prepared the change set. It can be previewed here:
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> https://github.com/jsf-spec/mojarra/commit/2f9e0152559d33324627c66209eb2511e03e20c0
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> If there are no further objections I'd like to push this to java.net soon.
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> One thing to note, there currently is no replacement for @ManagedProperty. I'd like to provide a simple one roughly based on Manfred's blog from a while back, but as a Bean<T> instead with the ability to inject into various types. See http://manorrock.com/blog/2013/11/01/jsf_tip_31_migrate_your_managedproperty_annotations.html
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> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
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> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:32 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
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> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Neil Griffin <neil.griffin_at_portletfaces.org> wrote:
> +1 for an API change, indicating that annotations from javax.faces.bean are deprecated.
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> Thanks
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> However, I recall a conversation with Manfred in which he suggested having the legacy Managed Bean Facility utilize CDI under-the-hood. I think we should not do that because it would create complications for the JSF Portlet Bridge since the scope/meaning of javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped and javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped are not equal in a portlet environment.
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> I remember that this idea was pitched, but we're not doing that as far as I know and I don't think there are any plans anymore to pursue that. So no worries ;) Thanks for the reminder!
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> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
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> > On May 19, 2016, at 5:12 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi,
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> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's about time. I've already prepared the community for years that @ManagedBean and friends are going to be deprecated.
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> > +1 definitely.
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> > When mentioning alternative for @ManagedProperty, don't mention only @Inject but also explain @Produces possibility and all those new CDI qualifiers for JSF artifacts.
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> > Sure, thanks for the feedback. I'll prepare a changeset in the upstream/staging repo first, which everyone can look at and provide further feedback on if needed. If there are no objections I'll then push that changeset through to java.net.
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> > Kind regards,
> > Arjan Tijms
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> > Cheers, B
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> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:44 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
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> > Thanks for the support Michael en Paul :) I've created https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-1417 in support of this.
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> > Kind regards,
> > Arjan Tijms
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> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Paul Nicolucci <pnicoluc_at_us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > +1
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> > Regards,
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> > Paul Nicolucci
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> > <graycol.gif>Michael Müller ---05/18/2016 03:40:02 PM---+99999 (at least) This avoids a commonly Seen problem
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> > From: Michael Müller <michael.mueller_at_mueller-bruehl.de>
> > To: jsr372-experts_at_javaserverfaces-spec-public.java.net
> > Date: 05/18/2016 03:40 PM
> > Subject: [jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Deprecating types in javax.faces.bean package?
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> > +99999 (at least)
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> > This avoids a commonly Seen problem
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> > Herzliche Grüße, best regards
> > Michael Müller
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> > Am 18. Mai 2016 20:43:11 MESZ, schrieb arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
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> > As it's been clear for some time we're moving away from the JSF native managed bean facility, I'd like to propose deprecating all the types in the javax.faces.bean package via the @deprecated annotation and/or javadoc, and mention what the alternative is now.
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> > This would particularly be helpful with things like javax.faces.bean.RequestScoped vs javax.enterprise.context.RequestScoped, where people not rarely import the wrong version.
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> > Thoughts?
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> > Kind regards,
> > Arjan Tijms
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