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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Re: Re: Some concerns about EG activity

From: Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:10:25 +0200

We use slack at work and quite happy with it.

Regards,

Cagatay Civici
PrimeFaces Lead
PrimeTek Informatics
www.primefaces.org



On Jan 19, 2016, 14:09, at 14:09, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>Is the IRC channel simply the ##jsf channel on irc.freenode.net? I
>used to
>use this years ago, but haven't anytime recently.
>
>Josh Juneau
>juneau001_at_gmail.com
>http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
>On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:33 AM, Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> IRC is kind of 1990 and Slack is kind of 2015 ;)
>>
>> Cheers, B
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Frank Caputo <frank_at_frankcaputo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> we have the IRC channel. I have no idea, how a new tool will help.
>It
>>> would be a great first step, if every EG member would join the IRC
>channel.
>>>
>>> Ciao Frank
>>>
>>> Am 18.01.2016 um 16:19 schrieb Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>:
>>>
>>> I vote for public, unless there's a sensitive topic (which usually
>only
>>> happens with security).
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> Kito D. Mann | @kito99 | Author, JSF in Action
>>> Web Components, Polymer, JSF, PrimeFaces, Java EE, and Liferay
>training
>>> and consulting
>>> Virtua, Inc. | virtua.tech
>>> JSFCentral.com <http://jsfcentral.com/> | @jsfcentral
>>> +1 203-998-0403
>>>
>>> * Listen to the Enterprise Java Newscast: *http://
>>> <http://blogs.jsfcentral.com/JSFNewscast/>enterprisejavanews.com
>>> <http://ww.enterprisejavanews.com/>*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm okay with either Slack or IRC.
>>>>
>>>> Do we want the channel to be directly public, or do we post the
>chat log
>>>> afterwards?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to a Slack channel and meetings more often.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Juneau
>>>>> juneau001_at_gmail.com
>>>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>>>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I'm so late to the party, but I think it's safe to say the
>EG
>>>>>> has overall been pretty quiet. Honestly, I think it's because no
>one has a
>>>>>> lot of time available, including the spec leads. That being said,
>we've got
>>>>>> to continue to move forward, and I'm glad that Arjan and Bauke
>have been
>>>>>> pushing so hard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone thought about creating a Slack channel instead of IRC?
>I'm
>>>>>> fine with IRC, but Slack is hipper these days so we might get
>some more
>>>>>> interest. Either, way, some sort of bi-weekly meeting is an
>excellent idea.
>>>>>> My guess is sometime early in the morning (PT) would work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed and Manfred, it would help if you could remind us what
>everyone's
>>>>>> assignments are; I don't think everything is in JIRA (please
>correct me if
>>>>>> I'm wrong). I know I have an issue related to synchronizing
>tokens on my
>>>>>> plate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kito D. Mann | @kito99 | Author, JSF in Action
>>>>>> Web Components, Polymer, JSF, PrimeFaces, Java EE, and Liferay
>>>>>> training and consulting
>>>>>> Virtua, Inc. | virtua.tech
>>>>>> JSFCentral.com <http://jsfcentral.com/> | @jsfcentral
>>>>>> +1 203-998-0403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Listen to the Enterprise Java Newscast: *http://
>>>>>> <http://blogs.jsfcentral.com/JSFNewscast/>enterprisejavanews.com
>>>>>> <http://ww.enterprisejavanews.com/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, arjan tijms
><arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to share some concerns about the level of activity of
>this
>>>>>>> EG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm very happy with the recent proposal by Bauke, but apart from
>>>>>>> that, activity currently doesn't seem to be at the same level as
>it once
>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look at the commits in the RI, then it's quite clear that
>>>>>>> activity is a little down, even after the master branch was
>opened again.
>>>>>>> See https://github.com/javaserverfaces/mojarra/commits/master
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the amount of actual features being developed for JSF
>2.3
>>>>>>> (e.g. actual code), then when JSF 2.3 just started Manfred was
>doing an
>>>>>>> amount of commits for the initial CDI alignment feature, but
>after
>>>>>>> approximately early 2015 I didn't see JSF 2.3 feature commits
>from him
>>>>>>> anymore (please correct me if I'm wrong, I may have missed
>something).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for Ed, there were some clarifications during 2015 and one
>bigger
>>>>>>> feature just before JavaOne (validateWholeBean). I'm not
>entirely sure if
>>>>>>> that feature is deemed fully ready wrt to the implementation
>(the spec
>>>>>>> issue is closed though), but after JavaOne no more commits were
>being done
>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the various EG members, a variety of issues were assigned
>to
>>>>>>> different people, but I've not yet seen many patches or code
>commits for
>>>>>>> those. The only one that comes to mind is the Java 8 JSR 310
>from Josh and
>>>>>>> Ed (again, correct me if I missed something).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now my own activity is down too, so I know I'm to blame as well,
>but
>>>>>>> that still doesn't take away that IMHO activity could improve a
>little.
>>>>>>> It's now almost 2016, so perhaps a good time to reflect on what
>we have
>>>>>>> accomplished last year and what we plan to accomplish next year
>;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that may help here is a scheduled bi-weekly IRC chat,
>just
>>>>>>> to see where we stand and were we're heading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>