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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Re: Some concerns about EG activity

From: Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:08:31 -0600

Is the IRC channel simply the ##jsf channel on irc.freenode.net? I used to
use this years ago, but haven't anytime recently.

Josh Juneau
juneau001_at_gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866


On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:33 AM, Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> IRC is kind of 1990 and Slack is kind of 2015 ;)
>
> Cheers, B
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Frank Caputo <frank_at_frankcaputo.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> we have the IRC channel. I have no idea, how a new tool will help. It
>> would be a great first step, if every EG member would join the IRC channel.
>>
>> Ciao Frank
>>
>> Am 18.01.2016 um 16:19 schrieb Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>:
>>
>> I vote for public, unless there's a sensitive topic (which usually only
>> happens with security).
>>
>> ___
>>
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>> Web Components, Polymer, JSF, PrimeFaces, Java EE, and Liferay training
>> and consulting
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm okay with either Slack or IRC.
>>>
>>> Do we want the channel to be directly public, or do we post the chat log
>>> afterwards?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to a Slack channel and meetings more often.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Juneau
>>>> juneau001_at_gmail.com
>>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I'm so late to the party, but I think it's safe to say the EG
>>>>> has overall been pretty quiet. Honestly, I think it's because no one has a
>>>>> lot of time available, including the spec leads. That being said, we've got
>>>>> to continue to move forward, and I'm glad that Arjan and Bauke have been
>>>>> pushing so hard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone thought about creating a Slack channel instead of IRC? I'm
>>>>> fine with IRC, but Slack is hipper these days so we might get some more
>>>>> interest. Either, way, some sort of bi-weekly meeting is an excellent idea.
>>>>> My guess is sometime early in the morning (PT) would work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed and Manfred, it would help if you could remind us what everyone's
>>>>> assignments are; I don't think everything is in JIRA (please correct me if
>>>>> I'm wrong). I know I have an issue related to synchronizing tokens on my
>>>>> plate.
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>>
>>>>> Kito D. Mann | @kito99 | Author, JSF in Action
>>>>> Web Components, Polymer, JSF, PrimeFaces, Java EE, and Liferay
>>>>> training and consulting
>>>>> Virtua, Inc. | virtua.tech
>>>>> JSFCentral.com <http://jsfcentral.com/> | @jsfcentral
>>>>> +1 203-998-0403
>>>>>
>>>>> * Listen to the Enterprise Java Newscast: *http://
>>>>> <http://blogs.jsfcentral.com/JSFNewscast/>enterprisejavanews.com
>>>>> <http://ww.enterprisejavanews.com/>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to share some concerns about the level of activity of this
>>>>>> EG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very happy with the recent proposal by Bauke, but apart from
>>>>>> that, activity currently doesn't seem to be at the same level as it once
>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look at the commits in the RI, then it's quite clear that
>>>>>> activity is a little down, even after the master branch was opened again.
>>>>>> See https://github.com/javaserverfaces/mojarra/commits/master
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at the amount of actual features being developed for JSF 2.3
>>>>>> (e.g. actual code), then when JSF 2.3 just started Manfred was doing an
>>>>>> amount of commits for the initial CDI alignment feature, but after
>>>>>> approximately early 2015 I didn't see JSF 2.3 feature commits from him
>>>>>> anymore (please correct me if I'm wrong, I may have missed something).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for Ed, there were some clarifications during 2015 and one bigger
>>>>>> feature just before JavaOne (validateWholeBean). I'm not entirely sure if
>>>>>> that feature is deemed fully ready wrt to the implementation (the spec
>>>>>> issue is closed though), but after JavaOne no more commits were being done
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the various EG members, a variety of issues were assigned to
>>>>>> different people, but I've not yet seen many patches or code commits for
>>>>>> those. The only one that comes to mind is the Java 8 JSR 310 from Josh and
>>>>>> Ed (again, correct me if I missed something).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now my own activity is down too, so I know I'm to blame as well, but
>>>>>> that still doesn't take away that IMHO activity could improve a little.
>>>>>> It's now almost 2016, so perhaps a good time to reflect on what we have
>>>>>> accomplished last year and what we plan to accomplish next year ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something that may help here is a scheduled bi-weekly IRC chat, just
>>>>>> to see where we stand and were we're heading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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