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[jsr372-experts] Re: [jsr372-experts mirror] Some concerns about EG activity

From: Bauke Scholtz <balusc_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:33:27 +0100

IRC is kind of 1990 and Slack is kind of 2015 ;)

Cheers, B

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Frank Caputo <frank_at_frankcaputo.de> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> we have the IRC channel. I have no idea, how a new tool will help. It
> would be a great first step, if every EG member would join the IRC channel.
>
> Ciao Frank
>
> Am 18.01.2016 um 16:19 schrieb Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>:
>
> I vote for public, unless there's a sensitive topic (which usually only
> happens with security).
>
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> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm okay with either Slack or IRC.
>>
>> Do we want the channel to be directly public, or do we post the chat log
>> afterwards?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to a Slack channel and meetings more often.
>>>
>>> Josh Juneau
>>> juneau001_at_gmail.com
>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I'm so late to the party, but I think it's safe to say the EG has
>>>> overall been pretty quiet. Honestly, I think it's because no one has a lot
>>>> of time available, including the spec leads. That being said, we've got to
>>>> continue to move forward, and I'm glad that Arjan and Bauke have been
>>>> pushing so hard.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone thought about creating a Slack channel instead of IRC? I'm
>>>> fine with IRC, but Slack is hipper these days so we might get some more
>>>> interest. Either, way, some sort of bi-weekly meeting is an excellent idea.
>>>> My guess is sometime early in the morning (PT) would work.
>>>>
>>>> Ed and Manfred, it would help if you could remind us what everyone's
>>>> assignments are; I don't think everything is in JIRA (please correct me if
>>>> I'm wrong). I know I have an issue related to synchronizing tokens on my
>>>> plate.
>>>>
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>>>> Web Components, Polymer, JSF, PrimeFaces, Java EE, and Liferay training
>>>> and consulting
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>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to share some concerns about the level of activity of this EG.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very happy with the recent proposal by Bauke, but apart from that,
>>>>> activity currently doesn't seem to be at the same level as it once was.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look at the commits in the RI, then it's quite clear that
>>>>> activity is a little down, even after the master branch was opened again.
>>>>> See https://github.com/javaserverfaces/mojarra/commits/master
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the amount of actual features being developed for JSF 2.3
>>>>> (e.g. actual code), then when JSF 2.3 just started Manfred was doing an
>>>>> amount of commits for the initial CDI alignment feature, but after
>>>>> approximately early 2015 I didn't see JSF 2.3 feature commits from him
>>>>> anymore (please correct me if I'm wrong, I may have missed something).
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Ed, there were some clarifications during 2015 and one bigger
>>>>> feature just before JavaOne (validateWholeBean). I'm not entirely sure if
>>>>> that feature is deemed fully ready wrt to the implementation (the spec
>>>>> issue is closed though), but after JavaOne no more commits were being done
>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the various EG members, a variety of issues were assigned to
>>>>> different people, but I've not yet seen many patches or code commits for
>>>>> those. The only one that comes to mind is the Java 8 JSR 310 from Josh and
>>>>> Ed (again, correct me if I missed something).
>>>>>
>>>>> Now my own activity is down too, so I know I'm to blame as well, but
>>>>> that still doesn't take away that IMHO activity could improve a little.
>>>>> It's now almost 2016, so perhaps a good time to reflect on what we have
>>>>> accomplished last year and what we plan to accomplish next year ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Something that may help here is a scheduled bi-weekly IRC chat, just
>>>>> to see where we stand and were we're heading.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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