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[jsr372-experts] Re: Expert Group Meeting _at_ JavaOne

From: Neil Griffin <neil.griffin_at_portletfaces.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:58:49 -0400

I did some prototyping with Nashorn and jQuery and the "decorate response" idea is probably a no-go for the following reasons:

1) It requires a DOMResponseWriter and the org.w3c.dom Java classes are not good enough for JS libraries like jQuery to operate against.

2) DOM manipulation is only one feature offered by JS libraries. Features like DOM event handling are not covered in the server-side use-case.

3) Fully decorated HTML can already be achieved by having renderers encode more detailed markup.

On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We need 2 or 3 big ticket features in JSF 2.3.
>
> My big ticket offer would be related to url mapping.
>
> For example app/user/ maps to WEBAPP/pages/userpages/user.xhtml
>
> I don’t think it is very hard to do in terms of implementation as well.
>
> Would be good to have a configuration by exception just like the rest of Java EE by following a certain convention of mapping.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cagatay Civici
> PrimeFaces Lead
> PrimeTek Informatics
> www.primefaces.org
> On Monday 13 October 2014 at 16:22, Bauke Scholtz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How about a native push component using websockets which is new since Java EE 7?
>>
>> Cheers, Bauke
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2014 3:00 PM, "Josh Juneau" <juneau001_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I listened to the audio from the expert group meeting at JavaOne. I apologize again that I could not make it due to one of my talks being scheduled at the same time. That said, it seemed as though the meeting went very well, and I was happy to hear that there are others (Neil in particular) that also would like to see at least one big ticket item for JSF 2.3.
>>>
>>> I feel that it is important to have at least one feature that will catch the attention of the community...mainly because such features help to maintain the visibility of technologies. If there are no big ticket items in 2.3, then it may be overlooked by some, making it look like JSF is becoming a waning technology...falling to the single-page frameworks, or being pushed aside for the MVC initiative. We all know that JSF is still widely used and excellent at what it does, but I think JSF needs to remain highly visible with the 2.3 release as the leading server-side web framework for Java EE, especially given that there are a couple of years between each release.
>>>
>>> Maybe the big feature could be the "decorate response" phase that was mentioned in the meeting, or even "increased support for HTTP 2.0", covering the dispatch priority concerns. Perhaps better integration with single-page frameworks, as addressed in Ian's presentation?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time, I appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Josh Juneau
>>> juneau001_at_gmail.com
>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>>
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