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[javaee-spec users] Re: [jsr366-experts] Standardizing logging

From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:42:04 +0200

2015-04-14 21:23 GMT+02:00 Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>:

> Gosh, we've talked about it so many times that it's becoming painful : no
> body uses JUL in a production environment. Full stop. So, let's do
> something else. The good thing is that it looks like bits of JULs will get
> deprecated [1] so it will be easier to get rid of it when modularization.
>
>
That is a wrong free assumption...and moreover not a reason to create
another *API*.

Side note: JUL will not get deprecated reading your link, just part
property listener part



> Antonio
>
> [1] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/162
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau_at_gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> @Antonio: can you point out what you want to standardize? Seems
>> java.util.logging is here and already standard. Only missing thing from my
>> point of view is "application" configuration but not sure it does worth a
>> JSR, do yuo have something else in mind?
>>
>>
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>> 2015-04-14 20:00 GMT+02:00 Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've mentioned standardizing logging so many time [1], that I'll make it
>>> short this time (BTW, on a day to day basis, as a developper, I still
>>> struggle with logs).
>>>
>>> But this time I saw this blog, so I couldn't stop from thinking about it
>>> : *On the top 20 Java GitHub projects, 6 are related to logging* [2] I
>>> know logging wasn't in the top priorities of the Java EE 8 survey, but I
>>> think it's also our duty to acknowledge that, if so many logging framework
>>> exists, then, there is a demand.
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://antoniogoncalves.org/2012/09/06/i-need-you-for-logging-api-spec-lead/
>>> [2]
>>> http://blog.takipi.com/we-analyzed-60678-libraries-on-github-here-are-the-top-100/
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>
>
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> Antonio Goncalves
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