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[javaee-spec users] Re: [jsr342-experts] Servlet Profile (was JAX-RS and the Web Profile)

From: Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:02:27 -0500

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Oh, one thing I forgot to add in the first email (maybe I should break
> this up into a separate thread?) is adding JavaMail to the Web Profile.
> There are many times a web application (or enterprise application) will
> need to send email notifications and it's not there by default.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:21, Antonio Goncalves <
> antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember back on the Java EE 6 expert group we talked about having a
>> "minimal profile" with only Servlet & JSPs (I remember Rod Johnson being
>> interested in such profile, Roberto Chinicci even wrote a few blog posts
>> about it :
>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/robc/archive/2008/02/profiles_in_the_1.html
>> ).
>>
>> I have a few concerns with this. First of all, JSPs are not evolving : it
>> is a poor UI framework (no Ajax and so on) and is not a templating fwk
>> either. Second, except if I'm missed something on Servlet 3.1, we don't
>> have a simple controller to build MVC web apps. With just Servlets and
>> JSPs, we miss the controller. I remember that the JAX-RS 1.1 and Servlet
>> 3.0 expert group talked about it, but I think nothing happened.
>>
>> For me, such a minimal profile would make sense with a proper templating
>> framework, Expression Language and a simple servlet controller ( la Spring
>> MVC).
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:03, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd also like to suggest a simple Servlet or Basic profile. It would
>>> include servlets, JSP, EL, CDI and JAX-RS. Essentially tomcat / jetty with
>>> CDI and JAX-RS integrated. This would give a very powerful programming
>>> environment (namely CDI and JAX-RS) as a strong base and also allow our
>>> friends developing tomcat and jetty to join in and be a Java EE compliant
>>> server! Oh, and JSF would then run purely in a Java EE environment, no more
>>> "pseudo EE container" aka Servlet container.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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