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[javaee-spec users] Re: [jsr342-experts] Servlet Profile (was JAX-RS and the Web Profile)

From: Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:03:03 -0500

I should add that this +1 is for adding JavaMail.
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Kito Mann <kito.mann_at_virtua.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Oh, one thing I forgot to add in the first email (maybe I should break
>> this up into a separate thread?) is adding JavaMail to the Web Profile.
>> There are many times a web application (or enterprise application) will
>> need to send email notifications and it's not there by default.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:21, Antonio Goncalves <
>> antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember back on the Java EE 6 expert group we talked about having a
>>> "minimal profile" with only Servlet & JSPs (I remember Rod Johnson being
>>> interested in such profile, Roberto Chinicci even wrote a few blog posts
>>> about it :
>>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/robc/archive/2008/02/profiles_in_the_1.html
>>> ).
>>>
>>> I have a few concerns with this. First of all, JSPs are not evolving :
>>> it is a poor UI framework (no Ajax and so on) and is not a templating fwk
>>> either. Second, except if I'm missed something on Servlet 3.1, we don't
>>> have a simple controller to build MVC web apps. With just Servlets and
>>> JSPs, we miss the controller. I remember that the JAX-RS 1.1 and Servlet
>>> 3.0 expert group talked about it, but I think nothing happened.
>>>
>>> For me, such a minimal profile would make sense with a proper templating
>>> framework, Expression Language and a simple servlet controller ( la Spring
>>> MVC).
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:03, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to suggest a simple Servlet or Basic profile. It would
>>>> include servlets, JSP, EL, CDI and JAX-RS. Essentially tomcat / jetty with
>>>> CDI and JAX-RS integrated. This would give a very powerful programming
>>>> environment (namely CDI and JAX-RS) as a strong base and also allow our
>>>> friends developing tomcat and jetty to join in and be a Java EE compliant
>>>> server! Oh, and JSF would then run purely in a Java EE environment, no more
>>>> "pseudo EE container" aka Servlet container.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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