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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Re: Standardization Of Exploded Archives

From: Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:42:25 +0100

As Reza says, time to modernize Java EE. I haven't checked JSR 77 (Java EE
management) nor JSR 88 (Deployment) but something around configuration,
deployment, staging would be important. All that would help testing
frameworks like Arquillian. Testing has always been the bad boy of Java EE.

Antonio

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 00:05, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds fair, but most people I spoke to between JavaOne and DevoXX agreed,
> there probably should be at least one or a few more EE JSRs.
>
> Maybe not one for packaging only, but as you mentioned configuration,
> staging and maybe deployment. Not sure if bundling them all into one works,
> any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Reza Rahman <reza_rahman_at_lycos.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd rather this be addressed as part of a larger initiative to modernize
>> Java EE configuration in general (discussed ad nausea some time ago).
>>
>>
>> On 1/6/2012 5:09 PM, Werner Keil wrote:
>>
>> It's funny, as Andrew L Rubiger who works e.g. on Shrinkwrap asked me
>> just that (if I believe some of it might be worthy of a JSR) some time
>> between Java2Days last year in Sofia and DevoXX briefly after[?]
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Antonio Goncalves <
>> antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny. I was playing with ShrinkWrap lately and saw the same kind of
>>> APIs on GlassFish : APIs to build archives. A shame this is not standard.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:58, Jim Knutson <knutson_at_us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam Bien <abien_at_adam-bien.com> wrote on 11/11/2011 05:38:14 AM:
>>>> > I would standardize the existence of exploded JARs, WARs and EARs.
>>>> > All application servers do support that anyway,
>>>>
>>>> Is this a deployment artifact you are talking about or a post
>>>> deployment form?
>>>>
>>>> If this is to support faster development patterns, then you need
>>>> to be more specific about the pattern since many build systems
>>>> are finicky in their directory layout and relationships and it's
>>>> not clear that just extracting the deployment artifact is worth it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim Knutson
>>>> WebSphere Java EE Architect
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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