+1 to a F2F meeting!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:14 AM Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I'm not sure, if Jeff is likely Oracle's new Spec Lead for JSR 375 or just
> a "messenger", but the message for this JSR and its goals towards Java EE 8
> at least include "O-Auth and OpenID Connect support" by the time the EE 8
> release train is scheduled.
>
> David already spoke about possible adjustments to the exact scope or
> requirements of JSRs like 375 when he mentioned it at JavaLand, but he also
> called it "Cloud relevant" and so did other sources at Oracle. And it is
> quite unlikely the aims like
>
> "O-Auth and OpenID Connect" can be reached elsewhere.
> Java EE 8 is supposed to run on Java SE 8, so a new "JEP" or SE 9 module is out of the question.
> JSR 351 (Identity Management where AFAIR OpenID was also experimented with) was withdrawn by Spec Lead Oracle,
> which leaves JSR 375 as its natural heir and successor.
> spoke
>
> Many of us including Ivar, Adam, David or myself are speakers at JavaOne.
> Red Hat, IBM and Oracle will obviously be there, too, regardless of the inviduals representing them in the EG.
>
> Are those who come to JavaOne happy to do a F2F meeting offered by Heather to Spec Lead and Experts?
>
> Sorry that Arjan does not seem to be there, but I recall the conference rooms have both audio and Wifi, so ideally he and others who cannot attend in person could also join the meeting by phone, Skype or Hangout.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Jeff Tancill <jeff.tancill_at_oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
>> FYI
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:05:23 -0700
>> From: Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>> Reply-To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>> To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>
>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>> and microservices applications.
>>
>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>
>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>> platform.
>>
>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>
>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>
>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>
>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>
>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with you.
>>
>>
>> [1]http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>> [2]https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>>
>>
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