Guys,
I'm not sure, if Jeff is likely Oracle's new Spec Lead for JSR 375 or just
a "messenger", but the message for this JSR and its goals towards Java EE 8
at least include "O-Auth and OpenID Connect support" by the time the EE 8
release train is scheduled.
David already spoke about possible adjustments to the exact scope or
requirements of JSRs like 375 when he mentioned it at JavaLand, but he also
called it "Cloud relevant" and so did other sources at Oracle. And it is
quite unlikely the aims like
"O-Auth and OpenID Connect" can be reached elsewhere.
Java EE 8 is supposed to run on Java SE 8, so a new "JEP" or SE 9
module is out of the question.
JSR 351 (Identity Management where AFAIR OpenID was also experimented
with) was withdrawn by Spec Lead Oracle,
which leaves JSR 375 as its natural heir and successor.
spoke
Many of us including Ivar, Adam, David or myself are speakers at JavaOne.
Red Hat, IBM and Oracle will obviously be there, too, regardless of
the inviduals representing them in the EG.
Are those who come to JavaOne happy to do a F2F meeting offered by
Heather to Spec Lead and Experts?
Sorry that Arjan does not seem to be there, but I recall the
conference rooms have both audio and Wifi, so ideally he and others
who cannot attend in person could also join the meeting by phone,
Skype or Hangout.
Cheers,
Werner
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Jeff Tancill <jeff.tancill_at_oracle.com>
wrote:
> FYI
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:05:23 -0700
> From: Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
> Reply-To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
> To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>
> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
> and microservices applications.
>
> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>
> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
> platform.
>
> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>
> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>
> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>
> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>
> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with you.
>
>
> [1]http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
> [2]https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
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