I does not seem correct to continue annoying users just because it forces us to do an extra step. No one should have to do anything special to filter vacation messages when registering to a mailing list.
It's certainly not optimal as you noted but I am convinced it's better than status quo.
jerome
On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Sahoo wrote:
> It is not that difficult to filter these noises at the client end. Many of us have done it quite successfully. OOTH, it will be a lot inconvenient for core developers to remember to resubscribe. I checked with a number of developers locally and they all felt the same about the proposal.
>
> On Thursday 10 March 2011 12:59 AM, Edward Bratt wrote:
>> I agree that this isn't the best solution but there's simply too much clutter. I hope the root cause will be fixed soon.
>> -- Ed
>>
>> on 3/9/2011 1:49 AM Sahoo said the following:
>>> This does not seem like an optimal solution given that most of the GlassFish developers by virtue of using Oracle email server don't have an option to configure their "auto reply" settings to not reply to mailing lists.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 09 March 2011 04:34 AM, Edward Bratt wrote:
>>>> Due to popular demand we will begin to take action against users whose auto-reply messages clog the GlassFish aliases (most prominently, users and dev). We realize this is a problem with some mail servers, but the impact is simply causing too much clutter and getting in the way of productivity.
>>>>
>>>> Beginning today, users whose auto-response reply messages are generated in reply to every message -- including users whose e-mail messages are blocked by virtue of the Moderate function -- will be unsubscribed.
>>>>
>>>> If you are unsubscribed, you will receive a notice from the Sympa mail auto-bot alerting you of this fact. This e-mail contains a reply link which you may use to re-subscribe upon your return. Alternately, you can browse to http://java.net/projects/glassfish/lists and click the Subscribe button below the Users and/or Dev alias. In addition, you may review all content that was circulated in your absence with the Archive view facility of java.net. From the lists page (link above), Click "Browse Archives", or, for the GlassFish users list, click this link.
>>>>
>>>> You can avoid this by either suspending mail delivery, or switching your subscription / delivery preference to Digest, before you leave the office. Unfortunately, the administrators cannot do this for you, so if you don't take action, we'll have to resort to the more draconian Unsubscribe method during your office vacancy.
>>>>
>>>> You may set your e-mail delivery method to digest, in the Kenai UI. Browse to your "subscriptions" page and you can view all your settings in one form (Login to Java.net, Click your user ID, click Edit My Profile, Click the Subscriptions tab.)
>>>>
>>>> You can suspend your e-mail subscriptions, and remain subscribed by e-mail as follows:
>>>> send a message to sympa_at_glassfish.java.net
>>>> In the body include, one line, for each list you are subscribed to:
>>>> SET dev NOMAIL
>>>> SET users NOMAIL
>>>> QUIT
>>>> To return to your previous subscription settings, send another message to:
>>>> sympa_at_glassfish.java.net with the following
>>>> SET dev MAIL
>>>> SET users MAIL
>>>> QUIT
>>>> You can save these messages, to simplify this process for future office vacancies. You can follow this recipe for other projects you are also a member of, just change the e-mail destination to sympa@<project>.java.net, and adjust the lists accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Enhancements for some mail servers, are in the works and we hope those will alleviate this problem soon. Until then, we apologize for this inconvenience, if you are unsubscribed.
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers, Ed
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>>>> Ed Bratt | Senior Software Development Manager
>>>> Phone: +1 408 2764170 | Fax: +1 408 2767191 | Skype ID: edbratt
>>>> Oracle GlassFish Server
>>>> 4220 Network Circle | MS USCA22-102 | Santa Clara, CA 95054
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>>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers, Ed
>> <Mail Attachment.gif>
>> Ed Bratt | Senior Software Development Manager
>> Phone: +1 408 2764170 | Fax: +1 408 2767191 | Skype ID: edbratt
>> Oracle GlassFish Server
>> 4220 Network Circle | MS USCA22-102 | Santa Clara, CA 95054
>> <Mail Attachment.gif> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment
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