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Re: How to improve documentation -- Re: Separate User and Developer Sites?

From: Raju Uppalapati <ruppalapati_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:32:03 -0700

sure let me know the irc server, channel and time.

On 6/12/07, Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart <pelegri_at_sun.com> wrote:
>
> I was too terse in my response; feedback and RFEs are very much
> appreciated, I was just trying to enroll you :-)
>
> You are right. There are no corresponding items in issue tracker. Our
> bad. It's obviously one of the things to do and I should have done them
> before.
>
> I'm trying to free some of my time to advance some of these projects.
> Let me check with Sridatta and Dhiru about what subcategories would be
> most appropriate - so they don't step in the final push for GFv2beta 3.
>
> In the meantime, what do you think about hosting a documentation meeting
> online, say via IRC or skype? We could agree to meet once, see how it
> goes, perhaps do it weekly? would you be willing to attend?
>
> Thanks,
> - eduard/o
>
>
> Raju Uppalapati wrote:
> > I did not find any of these todo items in the issue tracker. Maybe I
> > used the wrong query.
> > Sorry if my email appeared like a complaint but I was attempting to
> > provide constructive feedback to make the site more appealing and in par
> > with comparable opensource projects. Thats the reason I mentioned the
> > exact issues with the current site.
> >
> > I can help ... though I am not a web site design expert. I know HTML,
> > CSS and basic javascript.
> > A more easier way for community participation might be to start an
> > initiative for redesign ... identify the plan, divide it into smaller
> > work items, create issues to track these items and part times like
> > myself can probably own a few small work items that play are role in the
> > bigger redesign project. I hope this approach is being followed even in
> > the V3 project features aswell and maybe for documentation too.
> >
> > thanks,
> > _raju
> >
> >
> > On 6/11/07, *Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart* <pelegri_at_sun.com
> > <mailto:pelegri_at_sun.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed. Most of these have been in the "todo" list for a bit... I
> don't
> > want to discourage people to complain, but we would very much
> welcome
> > help...
> >
> > Are you volunteering to help?
> >
> >
> > - eduard/o
> >
> > Raju Uppalapati wrote:
> > > Can something be done about the look and feel of the main
> > glassfish page
> > > and the theme of the wiki?
> > > The glassfish website (glassfish.dev.java.net
> > <http://glassfish.dev.java.net>
> > > <http://glassfish.dev.java.net>) seems a bit disorganized and the
> > > usability and site navigation is not comparable to
> > > http://opensolaris.org or http://opends.org
> > > The following are things that can be changed to improve the look:
> > > 1. The [Download Now] icons on glassfish.dev.java.net
> > <http://glassfish.dev.java.net>
> > > <http://glassfish.dev.java.net> and the fonts for each download
> item
> > > spoil the look.
> > > 2. The ad for the plasma or HDTV makes it appear as if this is a
> > > commercial page.
> > > 3. Three or four different fonts and font sizes are being used on
> the
> > > same page.
> > > 4. There is no search box to allow a complete site search.
> > > 5. The Javascript based Navigation on the top right corner
> [Aqarium,
> > > Core, Webteir ...][ does not appear like a navigation menu.
> > Unless one
> > > scrolls the mouse on it.
> > >
> > > How about:
> > > Registering a domain.
> > > Create a new site which is organized similar to OpenSolaris.organd
> > > maybe change the theme a bit.
> > > Stop using a Wiki for the main site or use a better Wiki software
> > with
> > > better theme?
> > >
> > > If not like OpenSolaris.org alteast make get the main site in par
> > with
> > > http://labs.jboss.com/jbossas/
> > > Both these sites are usable and looks professional.
> > >
> > > _raju
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/11/07, *Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart* < pelegri_at_sun.com
> > <mailto:pelegri_at_sun.com>
> > > <mailto:pelegri_at_sun.com <mailto:pelegri_at_sun.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if we should try to separate the Developer from the
> > User
> > > Documentation / Wiki sites.
> > >
> > > The current arrangement (wiki.glassfish.java.net
> > <http://wiki.glassfish.java.net>
> > > <http://wiki.glassfish.java.net
> > <http://wiki.glassfish.java.net>>) has been very
> > > successful in enabling the activities of the Developer
> > community but I
> > > think it has been much less successful with the User
> > community. For
> > > example, I think there have been very few contributed pages.
> > That may be
> > > because users feel the pages are only for the "official" team
> > and they
> > > can't contribute.
> > >
> > > One possibility would be to split the two sites. JSP Wiki
> > does not
> > > provide namespaces but we were discussing contributing
> > that. If so, we
> > > could create a namesapce for DEVelopers and another for
> USERs.
> > >
> > > An alternative would be a separate instance for each wiki.
> > >
> > > What do people think?
> > >
> > > - eduard/o
> > >
> > >
> >
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