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Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward

From: Alexander Makarenko <estliberitas_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:38:14 +0400

No, Vladimir. He haven't received any message. I'm waiting for it. Or maybe
I shouldn't wait but already join discussion and other activities? :)

2010/7/7 Vladimir Perlov <vladperl_at_hotmail.com>

> Hi Richard,
>
> >True, but I don't think Sun's Open Source views and culture just
> disappeared :)
>
> I understand it, and maybe we could contact directly some people from
> Glassfish team in informal manner and ask them some questions :) For example
> in the past I had contact a couple times with Jason Lee. He is kind of guy
> open to discussion and he is responsible for Glassfish's Admin panel and
> some other stuff also. So if we will have some questions to Glassfish team I
> could try to contact him. By the way it was a funny story how I the first
> time had contact with him. But I'm not that good storyteller to bother you
> with this kind of story.
>
> >Well, I always believe more in what people 'do' than 'say'
> >So let's test it out :)
>
> You don't have to do it just check out the link:
>
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/10-jul/o40interview.html?msgid=3-1768287653
>
> "Screven: The first thing that I want to point out is that Oracle doesn’t
> really have an open source-specific strategy. What we have is an overall
> company strategy: to deliver complete, open, integrated solutions to our
> customers."
>
> As you can see I was absolutely right, they just don't have any strategy in
> this regard :)
> Watching the video about how many people are using MySql I was just
> wondering why they couldn't effort to create decent community based SQL
> manager as alternative to MySQL browser. Maybe they didn't have a decent
> awarding schema at this time :)
>
> One more thing that could be useful for us is to read the Seth Godin blog:
> http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2010/07/the-theory-of-the-case.html
>
> Looks like he indeed scanning internet for his name and decided to commit
> to our discussion :)
>
> Almost forget, I have convinced one developer to sign for Fishcat program.
> But he didn't receive any confirmation by email after he finished the
> registration form. I just wondering if registration form is working now. And
> how long it takes to send confirmation.
> His name is Alexander Makarenko. In mean time I have said him to wait until
> tomorrow.
> Maybe he already got the message, but I'm not sure.
>
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:07:39 +0200
> From: rjdkolb_at_gmail.com
>
> To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward
>
> Hi
>
> On 3 July 2010 05:53, Vladimir Perlov <vladperl_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Indeed. But talking about the vision / limitation evaluation, I wonder
> > whether FishCAT in itself will be a "business" of its own by any
> > chance? Will FishCAT, embedded into the development (and marketing /
> > sales) process of GlassFish application server, actually even remotely
> > qualify as something akin to a "business entity"? I think tackling this
> > question is rather interesting - are "we" more or less an entity of our
> > own, which is likely to achieve its own objectives, or are we, indeed,
> > just a "solution provider" mainly in the GlassFish context? I think
> > this partially is a decision we have to make, partially it is a
> > decision Oracle as driving force behind GlassFish will have prepared
> > for us. :)
>
> Again I doubt that Oracle has defined clear policy on it.
> After all they never had a similar program in place.
>
>
> True, but I don't think Sun's Open Source views and culture just
> disappeared :)
>
> Some thing for you :
> http://medianetwork.oracle.com/media/show/15259?n=playlist&nid=86
>
>
> It would be interesting to know how Richard "tackling" this question :)
>
>
> Well, I always believe more in what people 'do' than 'say'
> So let's test it out :)
>
> regards
> Richard.
>
>
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