Hi Vladimir,
Thanks for your input, developers forums are good places, may be more
cats can help us recruit in different forums.
At this point, I am afraid FishCAT has limited scope, so wont' be able
to do things you suggested below, we will first
reach the people willing to contribute not for points. Last time we did
the same way and we have more than
70 people signed up. The effort gained passion for improving GlassFish
quality, that in return benefits every one.
If we say some thing we can't do withing FishCAT scope, that is not
good, so I like to make all this clear again, thanks for
your understanding :-)
Have a good weekend!
Judy
Vladimir Perlov wrote:
> Hi cats,
>
> >Here are a few places we can send emails to invite, any place else,
> idea please. Thanks!
>
> >users_at_glassfish.dev.java.net <mailto:users_at_glassfish.dev.java.net>
> >dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net <mailto:dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net>
> >GlassFish in Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin ...
>
> What about developers forums such as JSF and so on?
> Another question is how many people we can reach this way?
> Do we have the way to find out it?
> Is there is a way to send the letter instantly to all oracle based
> email lists and forums?
> Can we promise them that people who will do the best will get some
> kind of title signed by Larry Ellison?
> Can we promise them that people with the title will be eligible for
> some discount for Oracle organized events?
> Of course the holder of the title will be eligible for this kind
> of privileges during only one year.
> People who deserve the title should get some kind of badge with
> corresponding certificate.
> For example "Siberian tiger" certificate should be signed by Larry
> Ellison his self to make it more valuable and "Lion" title should be
> signed at least by Glassfish team leader.
> Custom made metallic badge should provide the following data:
> Title name, year, unique id, corresponding to the title symbol/picture
> (lion, tiger,...)
> Maybe we could also write on the badge in small font definitely
> something like this: "Noble member of Fishcat tribe".
>
> Beside it makes sense to produce collectible kind of coins that people
> will be able to buy using their points/dukes.
> When our awarding schema will be strong we shall make to start to use
> silver, gold, and other precious metal to produce them.
> Just a couple quickly found related to the topic links:
>
> http://www.kingpins.net/custom-coins.asp
> http://www.yellowfinindustries.com/index.php
>
> In conclusion I would say that if now are strategy is stickers
> oriented then we have to make them adult oriented and artificially
> rise their value. One more idea in this direction would be to find
> pretty good designer on http://www.deviantart.com/ site and ask them
> to create design for our badges,coins, logos and so on. Probably they
> will do it for free in case we will open to them additional market.
> This is one of the reason I has asked about how many people we can reach.
>
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:13:04 -0700
> From: judy.j.tang_at_oracle.com
> To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward
>
> Good idea Richard. We can do that :-)
>
> FishCAT is simply a Beta testing, so we need to find different ways to
> reach GlassFish users.
> Here are a few places we can send emails to invite, any place else,
> idea please. Thanks!
>
> users_at_glassfish.dev.java.net <mailto:users_at_glassfish.dev.java.net>
> dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net <mailto:dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net>
> GlassFish in Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin ...
>
> Thanks,
> Judy
>
>
> Richard Kolb wrote:
>
>
> Ah, we can add a field in the registration form: Who refereed you
> to FishCAT
> 50 Bonus points for every referral
>
>
> On 2 July 2010 10:30, Judy Tang <judy.j.tang_at_oracle.com
> <mailto:judy.j.tang_at_oracle.com>> wrote:
>
> Suggest every one read this email help to recruit 1 FishCAT,
> we will get 50 in no time :-)
>
>
> Judy Tang wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I like your planning with very clear goal. This is
> great. Let's start!
>
> - To attract and keep more than 50 activity participating
> independent FishCAT members
> - To attract more than 10 application specific Gold members
>
> Thanks,
> Judy
>
> Richard Kolb wrote:
>
> Hi Vladimir
>
> On 2 July 2010 05:58, Vladimir Perlov
> <vladperl_at_hotmail.com <mailto:vladperl_at_hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> >But agreed type don't know GlassFish the full
> potential of what FishCAT can accomplish
>
> So shell we start some planning to see what we can
> accomplish?
>
>
> Yes, and I think we need to have a modest approach and
> not a big bang approach for now.
> Perhaps we can have more long term goals as well.
>
>
>
> Maybe it doesn't make sense anymore to do
> some surveys?
>
>
> Yes, I don't think so.
> I don't want to send people annoying surveys without a
> clear strategy first.
> (Because FishCAT is not active at the moment)
>
>
> How about this short plan:
>
> July - writing vision, policy, strategy, business
> model and infrastructure specification
>
>
> Top down business approach. I like this.
> We already have a focus area, so I would like to keep
> that.
> http://wiki.glassfish.java.net/Wiki.jsp?page=FishCAT2010SecHalf
> *
>
> *Just some ideas for mission statement and short term
> vision
> *
> Mission statement :*
> The FishCAT community team strives to keep GlassFish's
> high quality standard and even improve the quality of
> this world class Enterprise technology.
> The community is also committed to helping the
> GlassFish developers execute their roles
>
> *Short Term Vision :*
> To attract and keep more than 50 activity
> participating independent FishCAT members to passively
> test GlassFish 3.1 before it is released and activity
> test specific new and existing features. While doing this
>
> To attract more than 10 application specific Gold members.
> (A gold member is someone who does active testing of
> specific applications or frameworks. EG of frameworks
> :Vaadin , IceFaces , PrimeFaces EG of Applications
> Hudson , Apache Archiva etc)
>
>
> regards
> Richard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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