Hi cats,
> Yes, definitely, especially as far as "vision" is concerned. This, by> now, was just a rather rough draft, mainly for myself to be honest, in> order to get me sorted in what we actually are talking about, and> eventually providing a first step towards evaluating what FishCAT can> do and what might be beyond its scope. :)
I should say that from practical point of view we are definitely on the same page now :)
> Indeed. But talking about the vision / limitation evaluation, I wonder> whether FishCAT in itself will be a "business" of its own by any> chance? Will FishCAT, embedded into the development (and marketing /> sales) process of GlassFish application server, actually even remotely> qualify as something akin to a "business entity"? I think tackling this> question is rather interesting - are "we" more or less an entity of our> own, which is likely to achieve its own objectives, or are we, indeed,> just a "solution provider" mainly in the GlassFish context? I think> this partially is a decision we have to make, partially it is a> decision Oracle as driving force behind GlassFish will have prepared> for us. :)
Again I doubt that Oracle has defined clear policy on it.After all they never had a similar program in place.It would be interesting to know how Richard "tackling" this question :)
Best regards,Vladimir
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:15:24 +0200
> From: rink_at_planconnect.de
> To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: Request for comments : FishCAT, the way forward
>
> Hi Vladimir, *;
>
> [target groups]
> > kind of solid perspective to the discussion.Only problem is that some
> > part of it should be more polished and connected in some way with
> > other parts and then put to vision/policy kind of document. Without
> > it much of value will be lost.At this stage I will try to cut down on
> > things related to comparing different business models and similar
> > stuff.
>
> Yes, definitely, especially as far as "vision" is concerned. This, by
> now, was just a rather rough draft, mainly for myself to be honest, in
> order to get me sorted in what we actually are talking about, and
> eventually providing a first step towards evaluating what FishCAT can
> do and what might be beyond its scope. :)
>
>
> [...]
> > with some kind of approaches could bad idea itself :) You know I'm
> > reading several blogs with orientation to how to do online business
> > and several times I read how important to see things from point of
> > resolving problem. The main idea was that if you can resolve the
> > other people problems you will have a big influence on them. The
> > following quote from internet should illustrated my point: “the most
> > important thing is that freelancers should view themselves as
> > solution providers instead of just service providers.”
>
> Indeed. But talking about the vision / limitation evaluation, I wonder
> whether FishCAT in itself will be a "business" of its own by any
> chance? Will FishCAT, embedded into the development (and marketing /
> sales) process of GlassFish application server, actually even remotely
> qualify as something akin to a "business entity"? I think tackling this
> question is rather interesting - are "we" more or less an entity of our
> own, which is likely to achieve its own objectives, or are we, indeed,
> just a "solution provider" mainly in the GlassFish context? I think
> this partially is a decision we have to make, partially it is a
> decision Oracle as driving force behind GlassFish will have prepared
> for us. :)
>
>
> > We also should be solution provider to the various groups that
> > Kristian has tried to classified.That is one of the reason why it
> > makes sense to do the groups table.
>
> Indeed. Let's see where this will get us. :)
>
> Enjoy your Friday (or whatever is left of it in your time zones...:) ;)
> K.
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