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Re: Opinions Wanted: v3 GUI Prototype

From: Survivant 00 <survivant00_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:43:25 -0500

:)

and don't forget to be able to add JMX monitoring in one of the dashboard..

I could get something like that
Tab1 : Deploy application
tab2 : Monitoring few applications
tab3 : logs
tab4 : sudoku :)



2009/2/25 Ken Paulsen <Ken.Paulsen_at_sun.com>

>
> Yes, that's something we will be investigating (notice there is a dashboard
> link in one of the menus). No promises, but you may get your wish...
>
> Ken
>
>
> Survivant 00 wrote:
>
> one thing that I would like to have is a personalized dashboard. Like
> google IGoogle page. You can add gadget to the main page and move them.
>
> Like that I could create few main pages accessible with tabs and I
> customized my views.
>
>
>
> 2009/2/25 Ken Paulsen <Ken.Paulsen_at_sun.com>
>
>>
>> Hi Kristian,
>>
>> Thanks for the great feedback! To answer your question regarding
>> searching... currently we only search tags (not the content seen on any
>> screens). Implementing a tag-search is very easy and straight-forward,
>> searching localized content is much harder.
>>
>> Our thought for tags was that pages could be tagged with some default
>> tags. The user can then add / remove tags they would like to see, for
>> example I might put "ken" as a tag on the 5 or 6 pages I like to visit.
>> Then the search would allow me to find those pages in 1 click. Tags might
>> be task-oriented (monday tasks), content oriented (applications), or user
>> oriented (ken).... depending on how you'd like to use them.
>>
>> We also plan to have a "settings..." page (the link is in the menu). This
>> page will allow you to turn off features like tagging which might otherwise
>> get in your way. :) The sliding panel on the right is supposed to remember
>> to stay off the screen when you close it also -- that's a current bug.
>>
>> Thanks again for the feedback.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Kristian Rink wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ken, *;
>>
>> a few comments as I have stumbled across this earlier, already... :)
>>
>> Ken Paulsen schrieb:
>>
>>
>> Here are some things we are particularly interested in feedback on:
>> * Do you like/dislike the menus?
>>
>>
>> Pretty good. Actually, the menu structure looks rather straightforward and
>> quite task-oriented, in my opinion way more "logical" and consistent than
>> the current tree-view navigation.
>>
>> That said: I liked the tree in GFv2 but maybe, if included in v3, it should
>> be pruned a little - in my opinion it is too big right now, some things
>> could eventually be arranged in a better way (like, in example, having just
>> a tag "applications" to contain everything including webapps, ejb modules
>> and the like in a table-like fashion explaining what kind of type each app
>> is?).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Do you like/dislike the tagging feature?
>>
>>
>> Well... so far tagging seems all around, but honestly speaking, personally I
>> don't see much use in that feature, around here. Given a strictly outlined,
>> usable, sane menu structure easily allowing for having all features just a
>> click away, I am not sure why to eventually add even more complexity by
>> introducing a navigation hierarchy / structure of my own... ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course all other comments are also welcome (what's missing? what do
>> you really like? what do you dislike? etc.).
>>
>>
>> At first a "visual" thing: I would kinda scale down the big blue page header
>> ("Glassfish V3 Prelude Administration Console"). Sure, it's not that big,
>> but at least on my notebook display (1280x800), that's quite a big area on
>> the screen not really containing any meaningful information. Having this
>> header half as high still should be sufficient IMHO.
>>
>> Then: As stated I don't personally see the need to have tagging around.
>> Other than that, I'd like to have the "search" facility located in some more
>> exposed position (in the main menu?) as "fallback" given someone doesn't
>> find/want to search the section required... Search does also search the
>> admin_gui itself and not just the tags added to pages, doesn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Performance -- it's not good right now, it will be MUCH better
>> when it's not a prototype (note: it also doesn't help that this
>> prototype is running on a small desktop machine over a DSL-line...
>> ;) ).
>>
>>
>> Been testing it using a thin DSL line myself, I think it's not all that bad
>> either. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Ajax for updating tags and other portions of the screen is not
>> implemented
>>
>>
>> Though I generally like AJAX being used in tools like this, I surely would
>> enjoy seeing features like this dumped for the sake of performance in final
>> release. Glassfish v2 admin_gui was quite a pleasant and usable experience
>> but also had some minor glitches eventually could be done better (log
>> viewer, in example). From that point of view, less AJAX for the sake of an
>> admin_gui as light and responsive as somewhat possible seems desirable... In
>> my opinion (even though drastically limited in terms of features), the ui of
>> tomcat lambdaprobe management UI (lambdaprobe.org) still somewhat shines
>> even obviously discontinued...
>>
>> Oh well, I'll better stop muttering now... :) Keep up the good work, all the
>> best!
>> K.
>>
>>
>>
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