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Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing

From: Jeanfrancois Arcand <Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:13:16 -0400

Manfred Riem wrote:
> True,
>
> But then there is not reason to make a distinction in documentation or
> release? Just keep calling it Glassfish (no PE or EE).

+ 10 000 000!!!!!!

I'm myself completely lost with GlassFish, PE and EE. Right now when you
install GlassFish from the server image, the log say:

[#|2006-08-25T15:23:31.618-0400|INFO|sun-appserver-ee9.1|

Confusing, is it ;-)

Get we get rid of all SJSAS references? When you download Tomcat, you
don't get any JBoss|Geronimo references ;-).

Thanks ;-)

-- Jeanfrancois
>
> Kind regards,
> Manfred Riem
> mriem_at_manorrock.org
> http://www.manorrock.org/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:56 PM
> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing
>
> It's confusing to have multiple bundles. When we annouced the final version
> of GlassFish (v1) was available we got lots of questions around clustering
> and EE features and when those would be available.
>
> I think the question is why should there be more than one? If someone
> doesn't want to use the EE features then he doesn't have to. And if in the
> future the user does want to use that feature well then it is a matter of
> enabling it.
>
> One bundle means a very simple story from the user's perspective.
>
> Carla
>
> Manfred Riem wrote:
>
>> Is there any reason to only have one?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:30 PM
>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>> Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>> testing
>>
>> I thought the plan is to only have one and that is what we now call EE.
>> Sometime
>> in the next several weeks we will switch to only promote one bundle.
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> Manfred Riem wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Simple, both once both are in production. For now it should be PE ;)
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> *From:* Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2006 12:20 PM
>>> *To:* Martin Matula
>>> *Cc:* tango_pteam_at_Sun.COM; dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>>> testing
>>>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for raising this issue. I'm copying glassfish dev, because I
>>> think our decision greatly depends on which version the Glassfish team
>>> going forward is going to encourage developers to use as the default
>>> platform.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> GF b14 has been promoted - this is the build we will do the milestone
>>>> testing with. However the default version linked from the download
>>>> page (https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html) is "EE",
>>>> not "PE". We found out the same was true for the GF 2 Milestone 1
>>>> build already.
>>>> PE edition that we used to be testing with is also accessible, but
>>> >from http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/.
>>>> We need to decide by COB today whether we should test with the PE
>>>> (more preferable for QA to minimize the risks of regressions caused
>>>> by GF bugs), or EE (the default edition available to users). See the
>>>> thread below for more discussion.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [Fwd: glassfish v2 build b14 has been promoted]
>>>> From:
>>>> Martin Matula <Martin.Matula_at_Sun.COM>
>>>> Date:
>>>> Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:51:03 +0200
>>>> To:
>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>> CC:
>>>> Deepak V R <Deepak.Vr_at_Sun.COM>, tango_qa_at_sun.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it is acceptable to point users to the page Deepak
>>>> mentioned. We would need to create a page similar to
>>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html pointing to the
>>>> PE builds for all platforms and containing installation instructions.
>>>> Is that really what we want to do? The last promotion ran on GF 2 EE
>>>> (Milestone 1) already and we noticed no regression.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Deepak and Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On the page Deepak lists, both EE and PE versions are available. So
>>>>> I still say we should go with the PE version. Switching to the EE
>>>>> version to which clustering was recently added is asking for
>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Deepak V R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, glassfish promotion mailer is not giving enough
>>>>>> information. If you go to [1] your find jars they mention in the
>>>>>> promotion email. They should point to this link in the promotion
>>>>>> email. And we must also mention it in our milestone page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -Deepak
>>>>>> [1] http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>> users do not have access to javaweb.sfbay - they have access only
>>>>>>> to glassfish.dev.java.net. If I go there, the only download I see
>>>>>>> seems to be the ee download (without "pe" in the name). So, I
>>>>>>> don't think we should be using "pe".
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Want to make sure everyone see this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we should be using the PE version
>>>>>>>> PE without Clustering:
>>>>>>>> glassfish-image-pe-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>> glassfish-pe-installer-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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