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RE: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing

From: Manfred Riem <mriem_at_manorrock.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:57:17 -0600

True,

But then there is not reason to make a distinction in documentation or
release? Just keep calling it Glassfish (no PE or EE).

Kind regards,
Manfred Riem
mriem_at_manorrock.org
http://www.manorrock.org/

-----Original Message-----
From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:56 PM
To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing

It's confusing to have multiple bundles. When we annouced the final version
of GlassFish (v1) was available we got lots of questions around clustering
and EE features and when those would be available.

I think the question is why should there be more than one? If someone
doesn't want to use the EE features then he doesn't have to. And if in the
future the user does want to use that feature well then it is a matter of
enabling it.

One bundle means a very simple story from the user's perspective.

Carla

Manfred Riem wrote:

>Is there any reason to only have one?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM]
>Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:30 PM
>To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>testing
>
>I thought the plan is to only have one and that is what we now call EE.
>Sometime
>in the next several weeks we will switch to only promote one bundle.
>
>Carla
>
>Manfred Riem wrote:
>
>
>>Simple, both once both are in production. For now it should be PE ;)
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--
>>*From:* Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM]
>>*Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2006 12:20 PM
>>*To:* Martin Matula
>>*Cc:* tango_pteam_at_Sun.COM; dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>*Subject:* Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>>testing
>>
>>Martin,
>>
>>Thanks for raising this issue. I'm copying glassfish dev, because I
>>think our decision greatly depends on which version the Glassfish team
>>going forward is going to encourage developers to use as the default
>>platform.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>Martin Matula wrote:
>>
>>
>>>GF b14 has been promoted - this is the build we will do the milestone
>>>testing with. However the default version linked from the download
>>>page (https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html) is "EE",
>>>not "PE". We found out the same was true for the GF 2 Milestone 1
>>>build already.
>>>PE edition that we used to be testing with is also accessible, but
>>>from http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/.
>>>We need to decide by COB today whether we should test with the PE
>>>(more preferable for QA to minimize the risks of regressions caused
>>>by GF bugs), or EE (the default edition available to users). See the
>>>thread below for more discussion.
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>---
>>>
>>>Subject:
>>>Re: [Fwd: glassfish v2 build b14 has been promoted]
>>>From:
>>>Martin Matula <Martin.Matula_at_Sun.COM>
>>>Date:
>>>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:51:03 +0200
>>>To:
>>>Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>
>>>To:
>>>Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>CC:
>>>Deepak V R <Deepak.Vr_at_Sun.COM>, tango_qa_at_sun.com
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think it is acceptable to point users to the page Deepak
>>>mentioned. We would need to create a page similar to
>>>https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html pointing to the
>>>PE builds for all platforms and containing installation instructions.
>>>Is that really what we want to do? The last promotion ran on GF 2 EE
>>>(Milestone 1) already and we noticed no regression.
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Deepak and Martin,
>>>>
>>>>On the page Deepak lists, both EE and PE versions are available. So
>>>>I still say we should go with the PE version. Switching to the EE
>>>>version to which clustering was recently added is asking for
>>>>trouble.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>Deepak V R wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually, glassfish promotion mailer is not giving enough
>>>>>information. If you go to [1] your find jars they mention in the
>>>>>promotion email. They should point to this link in the promotion
>>>>>email. And we must also mention it in our milestone page.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>-Deepak
>>>>>[1] http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/
>>>>>
>>>>>Martin Matula wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>>users do not have access to javaweb.sfbay - they have access only
>>>>>>to glassfish.dev.java.net. If I go there, the only download I see
>>>>>>seems to be the ee download (without "pe" in the name). So, I
>>>>>>don't think we should be using "pe".
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Want to make sure everyone see this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think we should be using the PE version
>>>>>>> PE without Clustering:
>>>>>>> glassfish-image-pe-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>> glassfish-pe-installer-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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