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Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing

From: Craig McClanahan <Craig.McClanahan_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:46:45 -0700

Jeanfrancois Arcand wrote:
>
>
> Manfred Riem wrote:
>> True,
>>
>> But then there is not reason to make a distinction in documentation
>> or release? Just keep calling it Glassfish (no PE or EE).
>
> + 10 000 000!!!!!!
>
> I'm myself completely lost with GlassFish, PE and EE. Right now when
> you install GlassFish from the server image, the log say:
>
> [#|2006-08-25T15:23:31.618-0400|INFO|sun-appserver-ee9.1|
>
> Confusing, is it ;-)
>
> Get we get rid of all SJSAS references? When you download Tomcat, you
> don't get any JBoss|Geronimo references ;-).
>
Don't forget the login page of the admin console, which proudly
proclaims itself as "Sun Java System Application Server Administration
Console"
> Thanks ;-)
>
> -- Jeanfrancois
Craig

>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Manfred Riem
>> mriem_at_manorrock.org
>> http://www.manorrock.org/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM] Sent: Friday,
>> August 25, 2006 1:56 PM
>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>> Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>> testing
>>
>> It's confusing to have multiple bundles. When we annouced the final
>> version
>> of GlassFish (v1) was available we got lots of questions around
>> clustering
>> and EE features and when those would be available.
>>
>> I think the question is why should there be more than one? If someone
>> doesn't want to use the EE features then he doesn't have to. And if
>> in the
>> future the user does want to use that feature well then it is a
>> matter of
>> enabling it.
>> One bundle means a very simple story from the user's perspective.
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> Manfred Riem wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any reason to only have one?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:30 PM
>>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>> Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>>> testing
>>>
>>> I thought the plan is to only have one and that is what we now call
>>> EE. Sometime
>>> in the next several weeks we will switch to only promote one bundle.
>>>
>>> Carla
>>>
>>> Manfred Riem wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Simple, both once both are in production. For now it should be PE ;)
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2006 12:20 PM
>>>> *To:* Martin Matula
>>>> *Cc:* tango_pteam_at_Sun.COM; dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>>>> testing
>>>>
>>>> Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for raising this issue. I'm copying glassfish dev, because I
>>>> think our decision greatly depends on which version the Glassfish
>>>> team going forward is going to encourage developers to use as the
>>>> default platform.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GF b14 has been promoted - this is the build we will do the
>>>>> milestone testing with. However the default version linked from
>>>>> the download page
>>>>> (https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html) is "EE",
>>>>> not "PE". We found out the same was true for the GF 2 Milestone 1
>>>>> build already.
>>>>> PE edition that we used to be testing with is also accessible, but
>>>> >from http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/.
>>>>> We need to decide by COB today whether we should test with the PE
>>>>> (more preferable for QA to minimize the risks of regressions
>>>>> caused by GF bugs), or EE (the default edition available to
>>>>> users). See the thread below for more discussion.
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re: [Fwd: glassfish v2 build b14 has been promoted]
>>>>> From:
>>>>> Martin Matula <Martin.Matula_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>> Date:
>>>>> Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:51:03 +0200
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>> CC:
>>>>> Deepak V R <Deepak.Vr_at_Sun.COM>, tango_qa_at_sun.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it is acceptable to point users to the page Deepak
>>>>> mentioned. We would need to create a page similar to
>>>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html pointing to
>>>>> the PE builds for all platforms and containing installation
>>>>> instructions.
>>>>> Is that really what we want to do? The last promotion ran on GF 2
>>>>> EE (Milestone 1) already and we noticed no regression.
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Deepak and Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the page Deepak lists, both EE and PE versions are available.
>>>>>> So I still say we should go with the PE version. Switching to the
>>>>>> EE version to which clustering was recently added is asking for
>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deepak V R wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, glassfish promotion mailer is not giving enough
>>>>>>> information. If you go to [1] your find jars they mention in the
>>>>>>> promotion email. They should point to this link in the promotion
>>>>>>> email. And we must also mention it in our milestone page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> -Deepak
>>>>>>> [1] http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>>> users do not have access to javaweb.sfbay - they have access
>>>>>>>> only to glassfish.dev.java.net. If I go there, the only
>>>>>>>> download I see seems to be the ee download (without "pe" in the
>>>>>>>> name). So, I don't think we should be using "pe".
>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Want to make sure everyone see this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we should be using the PE version
>>>>>>>>> PE without Clustering:
>>>>>>>>> glassfish-image-pe-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>>> glassfish-pe-installer-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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