No arguments from me :-)
On 25 Feb 2010, at 10:36, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> Hi all once more,
>
> so I just wanted to add my 2cents to the discussion as to what is
> important for starters:
>
> I totally agree that it should be easier to bootstrap the EL - I have
> also had my issues with this before (I e.g. used the EL to write a
> custom excel templating mechanism, and it was pretty hard to get it up
> and run outside of the intended use). So yes please, letīs fix this. I
> will leave the technical discussion on this to the pros.
>
> I would however also love to have two issues fixed which bother me for
> real-life projects. This is:
>
> https://uel.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12
>
> which basically means that if a JSF component delivers a null out of
> one of its attributes, the null will always be coerced to an empty
> string or a boolean false or whatever the type of the attribute is. So
> you cannot deliver null values from typed EL expressions.
>
> and
>
> https://uel.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6
>
> Which means that the parameters that JSF provides to a
> method-expression (e.g. a value-change listener) are lost if there are
> custom parameters provided by the user in the expression. We already
> had a pretty long discussion with Kin-Man on this, and the solution
> might be to provide an implicit parameter in the EL-expression which
> will be replaced with the framework-provided params.
>
> best regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz_at_oracle.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Kin-man! Glad to be here. :-)
>>
>> Java.net id is aschwart.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Kin-man Chung wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, Andy. You're now in our mail alias. What's your java.net id?
>>>
>>> Kin-man
>>>
>>> On 02/20/10 13:50, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adding Andy Schwartz, who has also expressed interest in the EL spec.
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_redhat.com
>>>> <mailto:pmuir_at_redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is Martin Marinschek here? If not, he should be :-)
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Feb 2010, at 19:25, Kin-man Chung wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > First, let me introduce Christoph Beck. Christoph is the creator
>>>> of
>>>> > JUEL (http://juel.sourceforge.net), a quality implementation of the
>>>> > EL 2.1, and more.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm still looking into setting up a wiki for us. In the mean time,
>>>> > we'll have to use this alias for discussions. If need to, we can
>>>> also
>>>> > check in documents and write up into the svn repo, and issue
>>>> tracker to
>>>> > track issues.
>>>> >
>>>> > If this is the first email you got to this alias, please let me
>>>> know, so
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>>>> >
>>>> > I'll send the first topic for discussion in another mail, soon.
>>>> :-)
>>>> >
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