Hi all once more,
so I just wanted to add my 2cents to the discussion as to what is
important for starters:
I totally agree that it should be easier to bootstrap the EL - I have
also had my issues with this before (I e.g. used the EL to write a
custom excel templating mechanism, and it was pretty hard to get it up
and run outside of the intended use). So yes please, let´s fix this. I
will leave the technical discussion on this to the pros.
I would however also love to have two issues fixed which bother me for
real-life projects. This is:
https://uel.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12
which basically means that if a JSF component delivers a null out of
one of its attributes, the null will always be coerced to an empty
string or a boolean false or whatever the type of the attribute is. So
you cannot deliver null values from typed EL expressions.
and
https://uel.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6
Which means that the parameters that JSF provides to a
method-expression (e.g. a value-change listener) are lost if there are
custom parameters provided by the user in the expression. We already
had a pretty long discussion with Kin-Man on this, and the solution
might be to provide an implicit parameter in the EL-expression which
will be replaced with the framework-provided params.
best regards,
Martin
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz_at_oracle.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kin-man! Glad to be here. :-)
>
> Java.net id is aschwart.
>
> Andy
>
> Kin-man Chung wrote:
>>
>> Welcome, Andy. You're now in our mail alias. What's your java.net id?
>>
>> Kin-man
>>
>> On 02/20/10 13:50, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>
>>> Adding Andy Schwartz, who has also expressed interest in the EL spec.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir_at_redhat.com
>>> <mailto:pmuir_at_redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is Martin Marinschek here? If not, he should be :-)
>>>
>>> On 19 Feb 2010, at 19:25, Kin-man Chung wrote:
>>>
>>> > First, let me introduce Christoph Beck. Christoph is the creator
>>> of
>>> > JUEL (http://juel.sourceforge.net), a quality implementation of the
>>> > EL 2.1, and more.
>>> >
>>> > I'm still looking into setting up a wiki for us. In the mean time,
>>> > we'll have to use this alias for discussions. If need to, we can
>>> also
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>>> tracker to
>>> > track issues.
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