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Re: [Shoal-Users] Shoal for Compute Grid?

From: Shreedhar Ganapathy <Shreedhar.Ganapathy_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:24:38 -0700

Hi Mo
In fact, there are some app level apis in the GMS APIs that allow, for
instance, the client to be able to find out who the group leader(master
node) is, and if a particular node is a group leader, and get the
current cluster view in addition to the messaging APIs.
Sheetal was also looking for a case where a master could be explicitly
set by the application allowing deterministic setting of masters.

User enquiries such as the one from Albert open up the opportunities for
some collaborative work. I am hoping we will have some community
initiative on this.

regards
Shreedhar


Mohamed Abdelaziz wrote:
> You can also directly utilize the application level APIs for the
> cluster view and organization for designating dispatchers/schedulers
> and compute nodes, then the cluster messaging APIs for job
> dispatching. If these API's aren't sufficient enough, dropping one
> level down to the JXTA communication provider should provide all the
> pluming for inner cluster communication.
> A shoal based compute grid is an itch I have been wanting to scratch
> for a while, I would be willing to throw in some cycles in defining
> application level API's along with the implementation, if others are
> also willing to participate in the effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Mohamed
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Albert
>> We have experimented with deploying Shoal on the SunGrid
>> (Network.com) as a pilot project and learning from the experience.
>> Overall, it showed that applications can use Shoal in a grid
>> environment successfully. Our interest now is to see how Shoal can be
>> employed as a grid enabling engine.
>>
>> In this respect, you can surely try out Shoal as is, on a set of
>> nodes with simple compute server app written on top that would
>> realize this on a limited scale and move up from there.
>>
>> The shoal build instructions are located here.
>> https://shoal.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentView?documentID=43252&noNav=true
>>
>>
>> The latest shoal 1.0 download bits are here
>> https://shoal.dev.java.net/files/documents/5135/69556/shoal-1.0_08302007.zip
>> :
>>
>> Let us know how we can work together to make this happen.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Shreedhar
>>
>> Albert Strasheim wrote:
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> The presentation on Shoal located here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.glassfish.java.net/gfwiki/attach/UserExperienceMeeting/ShoalJXTAOverview.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> states that Shaol for compute grid is being worked on.
>>>
>>> Is there some code somewhere that I could look at/experiment
>>> with/build on? I'm very interested to see Shoal applied to compute
>>> grid applications.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Albert
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