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Re: Re: Re: Re: API feedback

From: Dhanji R. Prasanna <dhanji_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:33:24 +1000

Larry, while I agree with you in principle I think you will find that
JSR-299 is a big driver of the IoC standard and is going to try to be the
de-facto across several EE use cases (JSF2, Servlet, possibly even jsr311,
and other components like EJB, WS etc.). The EE JSR has got legitimate means
to reign in all the fledgling recalcitrant IoCs and standardize across the
board (whether on 299 or 314's framework) because many of its components are
diving them.

By the time we get something to the SE profile we will have all these
disparate prodigal IoCs sitting off in their own spaces making future
standardization even more difficult. I think in the interest of pragmatism
we ought to try to tackle this early and across the board (i.e. in EE6).

Dhanji.

On 7/13/07, Larry Cable <lcable_at_bea.com> wrote:
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> Actually I think the right place to do (at least part of this) might be
> in SE not EE
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> J
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> *From:* Dhanji R. Prasanna [mailto:dhanji_at_gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:35 PM
> *To:* dev_at_jsr311.dev.java.net
> *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: API feedback
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> Probably not thru JavaBeans, but I think it's worth bringing up to the EE6
> JSR.
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> On 7/13/07, *Larry Cable* <lcable_at_bea.com > wrote:
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> I wonder if such a thing is doable/achievable, or has Pandora already
> opened the box?
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> *From:* Dhanji R. Prasanna [mailto:dhanji_at_gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:30 PM
> *To:* dev_at_jsr311.dev.java.net
> *Subject:* Re: Re: API feedback
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> On 7/13/07, *Larry Cable* < lcable_at_bea.com> wrote:
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> perhaps a revision of the JavaBeans specification is called for to define
> a common IoC model for Java?
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> Atleast that. I'm hearing this all over the shop (JSF2, EE6, JSR-299),
> each one wants DI their way. I would *strongly* support your suggestion.
>
> Dhanji.
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