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Re: JSFTemplating: Fwd: recommendations for JSFT website/Google calendar down

From: Michael Phoenix <michaelandrewphoenix_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:11:59 -0700

Ken,

I fixed the google calendar problem and committed the code via CVS. I assume
there is something you need to do to refresh the page for the web server so
that everybody can see the changes.
I have some more comments on the item list below.

On 9/25/07, Michael Phoenix <michaelandrewphoenix_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just sharing this email conversation between Ken and myself with the rest
> of the group. I wanted to talk about this at the meeting, but I called in
> late and nobody was there. So, I'm going to start on adding the links Ken
> gave me here. It looks like the calendar is still not appearing on the
> Website, so I am going to look into that as well. Can somebody refresh my
> memory about the commands needed to update a CVS directory?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Paulsen <Ken.Paulsen_at_sun.com>
> Date: Sep 25, 2007 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: recommendations for JSFT website/Google calendar down
> To: Michael Phoenix <michaelandrewphoenix_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: Ken Paulsen < Ken.Paulsen_at_sun.com>
>
>
>
> Michael Phoenix wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Are we having a meeting tomorrow? If so, you may want to send out a
> reminder, because google calendars appears to be down.
>
> Ok, thanks for letting me know... reminder sent.
>
> i've also gone over the JSFT website. Here are some questions/observations
> on the tutorials and set ups.
>
> 1) Is "sun:" always the prefix for components? If not, where is the code
> that handles setting the tag prefix?
>
> No... the annotation in the "factory" file specifies this. The "sun:"
> components are the "Woodstock" components. There is some mapping facility
> implemented in JSFTemplating, however, only the Facelets syntax currently
> supports this... we need to implement this in the "template" syntax as well.
>

OK, so where is the 'factory" file located? There is nothing with a similar
filename in the project.

2) Facets really should be better explained. Maybe even a link to an online
> source outside of java.net would be a good idea.
>
> Facets or Facelets? I agree, we can and should link to info on both.
>

I was talking about facets, although we really should have documentation on
all the facelets work and how to use it as well. I can actually probably
find a link to the facets documentation on-line. Those folks who have worked
on the facelets stuff should write up some good docs for the website.

3) Event and Handlers needs A LOT of work. It doesn't come close to
> explaining to a novice how and why s/he should use these.
>
> Yes, I agree... Leonid Lamburt recently provided an HTML page that begins
> to explain the difference between handlers, we still don't have anything
> that explains the advantages and when/why you'd use an event.
>
> https://jsftemplating.dev.java.net/doc/eventsHandlersList.html
>

I can put a link to this in the tutorial.

4) Finally, for developers on the JSFT project, it would be good to have an
> area that talks about the project architecture including the important
> classes.
>
> Yes again! :)
>

Who can do this? It needs to be somebody who understands the project well.

In the future, should I be sending these sort of emails directly to the
> developer list?
>
> Yes, that would be fine... others can then reply and send in their
> opinions as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>

So, I can put in the links as indicated above for information we do have.
Much of these items require more content be written. Who can do this? Number
4 is particualrly important, I'd like to start doing some real development
(coding and analysis), but I really need more information in order to have
some place to start in understanding the internals of JSFTemplating. Getting
content to address items 1, 3, and 4 would go a long ay in helping me get a
handle on this.