Hi,
On 12/16/15 5:06 PM, Petar Tahchiev wrote:
> Hello,
>
> do we already have the jsrNNN-experts_at_jpa-spec.java.net 
> <mailto:jsrNNN-experts_at_jpa-spec.java.net> mailing list? I have a set 
> of issues I'd like to see included in this MR, but i'm not sure where 
> to post them.
since it is an MR we're going to use this - users - mailing. Feel free 
to post them either here or file them directly to the issue tracker[1].
thanks,
--lukas
[1]: 
https://java.net/jira/browse/JPA_SPEC
>
> Thanks.
>
> 2015-12-16 18:03 GMT+02:00 Lukas Jungmann <lukas.jungmann_at_oracle.com 
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann_at_oracle.com>>:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     comments inline...
>
>     On 12/16/15 4:51 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Paul Benedict
>>     <pbenedict_at_apache.org <mailto:pbenedict_at_apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Will not the JPA 2.2. process comb the backlog to see what
>>         other good issues can be included? I watched the presentation
>>         too and know EclipseLink has many supposed 2.2 features
>>         already prototyped; I just wasn't expecting it to be the
>>         end-all of the entire feature set.
>>
>>
>>     I can't speak for the MR/spec lead, but I interpreted the given
>>     list as just an initial list of issues that seem likely. For
>>     clarity this list is:
>>
>>     * CDI support in attribute converters
>>     * Meta annotations
>>     * Repeating annotations
>
>     this is already prototyped in RI and is currently being formalized
>     for the spec itself. I'm hoping to send out the wording for the
>     review by the group by mid-January.
>
>>
>>     * Date/time support
>>     * Stream support in queries
>>     * JPQL/SQL string from Query
>>
>>     * Autocloseable for entity manager/factory (for Java SE)
>>     * Pagination support for JPQL and Criteria
>>     * Creating criteria from query
>>     * Subquery(entityType) to criteria
>>     * Query metamodel by entity name
>>     * NoSQL
>>     * Multitenacy
>>
>>     The "problem" is of course that it's a MR, not a full spec
>>     revision with a selected EG etc. And a MR has a limited scope and
>>     doesn't have an official EG etc. I'd rather seen an official full
>>     release given the amount of issues that are still open for JPA
>>     and the fact that JPA is arguably one of the most important specs
>>     in Java EE (I'd personally say it's only second to CDI).
>
>     one more item which is missing in the list and which would be good
>     to tackle is improving integration between JPA and CDI based on
>     issues filed in the tracker, at least those doable within the
>     scope of an MR.
>
>     thanks,
>     --lukas
>>
>>     Yet, a MR is better than nothing.
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>     Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Paul
>>
>>         On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Scott Marlow
>>         <smarlow_at_redhat.com <mailto:smarlow_at_redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi,
>>
>>             I have some feedback that I would like to share about the
>>             JPA 2.2 process (see users_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>             <mailto:users_at_javaee-spec.java.net> email [1]).  While, I
>>             enjoyed listening to Lukas Jungmann's presentation [2], I
>>             am disappointed to not yet be able to participate in the
>>             discussion of what changes should be in JPA 2.2.  I think
>>             it is very important that we follow the JCP 2.9 1.1.1 [3]
>>             guidance.  I think that the easiest way to ensure that
>>             the substantial development of the JPA 2.2 MR
>>             specification is observable, is to immediately start a
>>             jsrNNN-experts_at_jpa-spec.java.net
>>             <mailto:jsrNNN-experts_at_jpa-spec.java.net> mailing list.
>>
>>             I also would like to congratulate Lukas Jungmann, on
>>             being the new JPA specification lead!  :-)
>>
>>             Regards,
>>             Scott
>>
>>             [1]
>>             https://java.net/projects/javaee-spec/lists/users/archive/2015-11/message/1
>>
>>             [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKEpg5zpsU#t=4h19m26s
>>
>>             [3] Section 1.1.1 from
>>             https://www.jcp.org/en/procedures/jcp2_9:
>>
>>             "PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
>>             Expert Groups may choose to keep purely administrative
>>             matters private, but all substantive business must be
>>             performed in a manner that allows the public to observe
>>             their work and to respond to it. All proceedings,
>>             discussions, and working documents must be published, and
>>             a mechanism must be established to allow the public to
>>             provide feedback. One common way of meeting these
>>             requirements is through the use of mailing lists, but
>>             other alternatives such as blogs, Wikis, and discussion
>>             forums may be preferred. Whatever communication
>>             mechanisms are chosen, these must include an archiving
>>             function so that a record of all communications is
>>             preserved. Archives must be readable by the public. 3
>>             "
>>
>>
>>
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