[Jersey] Re: Jersey is very much alive!

From: Richard Kolb <>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:44:39 +0200

Nice response Marek.
I personally use Jersey in and outside the container with great success.

Looking forward to the Adopt A JSR programs.


On 9 December 2014 at 14:44, Marek Potociar <>

> I said I will not reply to this nonsense anymore, but there is one more
> topic I’d like to clarify:
> 1. Jersey is JAX-RS RI. It will be JAX-RS RI for the foreseeable future.
> While Java EE is alive (and Java EE 8 plans have been recently introduced),
> Jersey will be alive too.
> 2. Jersey is shipped as one of the core components of WebLogic Server.
> IOW, Jersey is responsible for JAX-RS support in WebLogic Server. Oracle
> has over a hundred thousand of WebLogic customers and we will continue to
> support these customers in the foreseeable future. While WebLogic is alive,
> Jersey will be alive.
> 3. Jersey is part of Oracle Public Cloud <> offering.
> This is a rapidly growing business for Oracle. While OPC is alive, Jersey
> will be alive.
> I do acknowledge we need to improve our roadmap communication. We will
> work on that. For now, go an look at the JSR-370
> <> ( The Section 2 will
> give you answers for the general roadmap in the Java EE 8 timeframe.
> And now I’m really out of this conversation.
> Marek
> On 08 Dec 2014, at 08:26, Markus Karg <> wrote:
> Gili,
> I share your concerns and actually I know that at least for some projects
> it really is true. But as our intention is to keep projects alive, we
> should concentrate on discussions that lead to some value. Oracle bashing
> is certainly fun but does not provide something useful to anybody. So the
> question is: Now that we know that Oracle abandoned some projects and now
> that we know that Jersey team works only part time on Jersey, what
> consequences does that actually imply? For me: None. I stay with Jersey as
> it is a good product and is still actively maintained and developed
> further, even with possibly slower pace than in Paul+Marc times.
> Regards
> Markus
> *Von:* cowwoc [ <>]
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 6. Dezember 2014 17:56
> *An:*
> *Betreff:* [Jersey] Re: Is this project dead?
> I don't know about recent events, but shortly after Oracle took over Sun
> they killed most most of their open-source projects. And then there was the
> Hudson kerfuffle. All in all, this sent out a very negative message to the
> open-source community. Maybe this is what Joe is referring to.
> Gili
> On 06/12/2014 4:31 AM, Markus Karg wrote:
> Can you please disclose where it was said that "Oracle may be dialling
> back their support for open source like Jersey"?
> *From:* Jack Lista [ <>]
> *Sent:* Freitag, 5. Dezember 2014 22:24
> *To:*
> *Subject:* [Jersey] Re: Is this project dead?
> Agreed, Joe, and the progress on bug fixes and feature support is also
> causing concern, both here and elsewhere. It's very likely we will abandon
> Jersey for Spring because of exactly this apparent lack of commitment and
> clarify. A framework like this is too strategic to take a lot of risks
> with it, and comments elsewhere have indicated that oracle may be dialling
> back their support for open source like Jersey. We simply can't risk that
> something so fundamental to our success may be poorly supported. Honestly,
> it looks like it's already being poorly supported, which is kind of sad,
> but I tend to agree with cowwoc, the number of resolved defects and related
> stats are not encouraging.
> -=j=-
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Joe Mocker <>
> wrote:
> +1
> We do not necessarily need to know the specific engineers allocated to the
> project, but it seems a natural thing for any open source project to
> publish and maintain a roadmap of current and future work. Clearly the lack
> of that is making people feel like the project has been abandoned.
> --joe
> *From: *Markus Karg <>
> *Reply-To: *"" <>
> *Date: *Monday, December 1, 2014 at 11:24 PM
> *To: *"" <>
> *Subject: *[Jersey] Re: Is this project dead?
> Jack,
> while I share your concerns you should keep in mind that this is an open
> source project completely sponsored by _*Oracle*_ not by _*Sun*_ anymore
> so management style has changed a lot with many projects. Hence, there is
> nothing Marek in particular can do to change the situation as he is bound
> to his supervisor’s plans, of whom the public knows nothing neither name
> nor position nor address. Do not expect any publicly “visible” Oracle
> project lead to be actually in charge of “his” own project, the least of
> them (possibly none at all) actually are free in their decisions in a way
> you demand it, hence, could act like you want it. Unfortunately Oracle is
> not so fair to let us know the people behind these decisions so we cannot
> discuss with _*them*_. So a discussion like this one is fruitless, as I
> suspect those managers not even to read the forum postings here.
> Having said that I’d like to ask Marek if Oracle is willing to update
> target dates for inclusion of fixes, or publish updated road maps on future
> releases, on the web site / JIRA at least once a month. That should not
> take one person more than one day a month, should be natural management
> routine of any open source project, and I think everybody would be happy
> about this frequent sign of live, so nobody would think about abandoning
> the product.
> Regards
> -Markus
> *Von:* Jack Lista [ <>]
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014 00:07
> *An:*
> *Betreff:* [Jersey] Re: Is this project dead?
> I'm a little concerned with the project's apparent lack of progress, for
> one, and also for the apparent lack of interest from Oracle. Marek, you
> needn't feel defensive on Oracle's behalf but out here in the real world,
> people are making other plans, based on what's going on with the Jersey 2.X
> project, I would urge you to both communicate more and more clearly and
> also fix problems more proactively and in greater volume (I've seen quite a
> few myself) as the reputation of the project is suffering. I've been a fan
> of Jersey for a while, but this is on the verge of abandonment IMO, we have
> work to do and can't wait around like this
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Vetle Leinonen-Roeim <>
> wrote:
> More updates on what's going on behind the scenes would be appreciated.
> Other than that, I suspect there's a silent majority who is happily using
> Jersey for lots of useful things.
> Personally I've had a great experience using it, apart from some Spring
> issues that I've contributed to, and I think it absolutely doesn't seem
> like this project is dead.
> Regards,
> Vetle