Yes, the information about actual Oracle employee allocation is not disclosed. This information would be internal in any company (unless the company makes it's living on a single project) esp. since plans change and resource allocations vary over time. All the team members listed on GitHub are primarily allocated to Jersey related tasks, but I have no plans to discuss the exact allocations with you or anyone else on public forums.
In fact, while I understand that Jersey team needs to improve and start communicating better and more often about what is going on with Jersey, I consider your request and the whole tone of your contributions to this email thread that you have started quite arrogant. You are not adding any real value, just fueling more and more aggravation. If you think you are helping the project or its community this way, you are wrong.
Jersey is open source and is made available for free to use. In return, Jersey team gets valuable feedback and a lot of great contributions from the open-source community. We do value and appreciate all the contributions, even if it sometimes takes us more time to act on them. Yet, the point is that the relationship between Jersey project and its open source community is symbiotic, not master-slave in any direction.
With that, I'm out of this thread.
Have a good weekend,
Marek
> On 27 Nov 2014, at 21:41, cowwoc <cowwoc_at_bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
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> Marek,
>
> We asked which resources are dedicated to working full-time on this project, and instead you gave us a list of all employees who occasionally contribute to it. This doesn't answer the question.
>
> If this information is deemed proprietary then it speaks poorly of the project's transparency.
>
> Gili
>
> On 27/11/2014 2:25 PM, Marek Potočiar wrote:
>> Markus,
>>
>> Kindly go and check Jersey org on GitHub and see for yourself, who is the core member of the Jersey dev group. We always keep it up to date.
>>
>> Marek
>>
>> On 27.11.2014, at 19:14, Markus Karg <karg_at_quipsy.de <mailto:karg_at_quipsy.de>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Gili's intention was less to spy about Oracle's internal planning but more about Jersey's open management. Maybe he likes to work fulltime on the project, who knows, then he needs a fulltime uplink accepting and merging his pullrequests. So I interpret his question as: Who is this permanent person and when will that person merge that pullrequests. Open source lives from open management, hence this is a valid question. If it can only be answered by disclosing Oracle secrets then there is definitively something wrong with the openess of the Jersey project. ;-)
>>>
>>> On the other hand, as a JCP member and Open Source Java evangelist, I actually need to say that it in fact IS of community interest to know how many people work fulltime on an *open and global standard* like JAX-RS. It is an essential number to others to see whether Oracle is a good steward for Java or not. Not providing a number in fact *does* make people believe that there really is nobody working fulltime on this open source project (despite the hopeful truth), and I doubt that this is the image that Oracle wants to publish, does it? ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -Markus
>>> <>
>>> From: Marek Potociar [mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com <mailto:marek.potociar_at_oracle.com>]
>>> Sent: Donnerstag, 27. November 2014 18:58
>>> To: users_at_jersey.java.net <mailto:users_at_jersey.java.net>
>>> Subject: [Jersey] Re: Is this project dead?
>>>
>>> On 27 Nov 2014, at 16:02, cowwoc <cowwoc_at_bbs.darktech.org <mailto:cowwoc_at_bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Glad to hear it :)
>>>
>>> PS: No one is tasked with Jersey as a full-time project?
>>>
>>> I do not plan to discuss internal Oracle resource assignments details on open source forums. If you want to know more about Oracle internals, come for an interview <http://marek.potociar.net/2014/10/15/jersey-is-hiring-in-prague/> and be successful in getting hired. :)
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> On 27/11/2014 9:53 AM, Marek Potociar wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gili,
>>>
>>> Jersey is not dead. Committers are not fired. There has been some hiatus lately as Jersey is not the only Oracle project and number of developers is finite, but we should get back to a higher speed soon. So, please do not panic. :)
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Nov 2014, at 00:26, cowwoc <cowwoc_at_bbs.darktech.org <mailto:cowwoc_at_bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring some basic statistics to your attention:
>>>
>>> Only 4 issues resolved in 30 days: https://java.net/jira/browse/JERSEY/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel <https://java.net/jira/browse/JERSEY/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel>
>>> All 4 turned out to be INVALID (did not result in any code change): https://java.net/jira/browse/JERSEY-2684?jql=project%20%3D%20JERSEY%20AND%20resolutiondate%20%3E%3D-4w%20ORDER%20BY%20updated%20DESC <https://java.net/jira/browse/JERSEY-2684?jql=project%20%3D%20JERSEY%20AND%20resolutiondate%20%3E%3D-4w%20ORDER%20BY%20updated%20DESC>
>>> So really, no issues have been resolved in the past 30 days.
>>>
>>> According to https://github.com/jersey/jersey/commits/master <https://github.com/jersey/jersey/commits/master> the last commit is over 21 days old.
>>> 13 open pull requests receiving no love: https://github.com/jersey/jersey/pulls <https://github.com/jersey/jersey/pulls>
>>>
>>> Did Oracle fire all the committers or something?
>>>
>>> Gili
>>>
>>>
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