On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Tatu Saloranta <tsaloranta_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Igor Minar <iiminar_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> ...
>> I'm personally not happy about how some of the Oracle web design guidelines
>> were applied to *.sun.com sites either, but up until now we didn't have an
>> opportunity to do anything about it. Now that the deal is closed and Oracle
>> and Sun employees can talk freely, I hope that there will soon be an
>> opportunity to suggest changes that would be to the benefit of all web
>> visitors. We'll see if we have any success.
>
> I am not so sure about "talk freely" part... It's Oracle, after all.
> Larry isn't big on that talking freely thingy... :-)
Well, us *former* Sun guys (left at the beginning of December) have
been free to talk for quite a while, albeit without being in on any of
the internal discussions :-).
>
> Still, it's good point to bring up to web developers & maintainers, to
> improve ergonomics of site design.
As I bemoaned in a Facebook posting today, the garish Oracle "O" on a
red background is now the favicon on all the Sun sites too. Looking
at what they've done so far, it's pretty obvious that they just
attacked the low hanging fruit (s/Sun Logo/Oracle/Logo/g). Over time,
though, good luck with "advising" Oracle on web design -- I would
expect all of the former Sun website properties to look like OTN
(complete with red headers) before long.
Get used to it ... Oracle is not developer-focused the same way that
Sun was. Their messaging is all directed to people who will pay them
for stuff. On the other hand, they are still around and Sun isn't,
which I guess tells us something about listening to developers and
forgetting about monetizing anything ...
Craig